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Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Feb 7 00:11:18 2008, in response to Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Feb 6 23:17:37 2008. I like this plan also. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 7 00:29:20 2008, in response to Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Feb 6 23:17:37 2008. "It's very hard to get to the office at 9a.m. unless you leave at 6:30 in the morning," said Kowalski, 57, who works as a risk project manager on Wall Street.Come on! |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Feb 7 07:13:23 2008, in response to Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Feb 6 23:17:37 2008. This is a nice plan, I'd rather take the (2) or (3), but it still is a nice plan. |
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Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Feb 7 12:11:59 2008, in response to Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Feb 6 23:17:37 2008. I like these plans too BUT I guess by extending the B77 to Lower Manhattan, that means that the B77 would run from Van Burunt St/Red Hook to Lower Manhattan...meaning the OLD termination of 5th Av/10th St is gone! However, those riders will have to get use to the B75 at that point, huh?As for the B71, they should think about doing a short trip from Flatbush Av to Lower Manhattan. I think that's something the MTA should consider. Just my two cents. |
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Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Thu Feb 7 12:55:22 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by The TransitMan on Thu Feb 7 12:11:59 2008. It seems like the B77 would be EXTENDED PAST its Red Hook terminal into the Tunnel while retaining its current West Park Slope/Gowanus terminal. This would provide the intended relief for projected viaduct-related subway delays. Besides, it wouldn't be a very big detour through the Hook itself. |
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Posted by vfrt on Thu Feb 7 13:15:23 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Howard Fein on Thu Feb 7 12:55:22 2008. Adding B71 and B77 local buses through the BBT will only slow down premium-fare Bklyn & SI express bus service. While I'm riding on the X15 looking at scantily-clad women on my laptop, I don't want to be delayed by buses from the projects slowing up my trip, damnit! |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Feb 7 14:18:19 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by vfrt on Thu Feb 7 13:15:23 2008. You have it backwards. Rush hour service quality on the B71 and B77 is going to decline if they have to fight with the regular BBT traffic. I am sure the community will find this out when it starts. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Feb 7 14:40:08 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by JAzumah on Thu Feb 7 14:18:19 2008. If the traffic's that bad, the BBT should have a bus lane put in it. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Feb 7 14:57:26 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Howard Fein on Thu Feb 7 12:55:22 2008. I wish there was some way to extend the B77 to Methodist Hospital, perhaps it can go to Batrel Pritchard Square where the B68 ends. |
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Posted by vfrt on Thu Feb 7 17:08:27 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Feb 7 14:57:26 2008. The B75 runs only 2 blocks way. Do you think enough Red Hook residents travel to Methodist Hospital to justify extending the route to a place where it would have to turn back using residential streets? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Feb 7 19:47:47 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by vfrt on Thu Feb 7 17:08:27 2008. I do think that enough Red Hook residents would use the extension (look at the crowds the B67 attracts from there). Although NIMBYs will block the extension unless it goes to the square. |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Feb 7 20:03:52 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Howard Fein on Thu Feb 7 12:55:22 2008. So with your "EXTENDED PAST" comment, it would run from 5th Av and 10th St to Lower Manhattan? Is that what you're implying? |
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Posted by vfrt on Thu Feb 7 20:19:45 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Feb 7 19:47:47 2008. ---(look at the crowds the B67 attracts from there).---The B67 doesn't go near Red Hook, I'm a bit confused? |
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Posted by Dan on Thu Feb 7 20:23:22 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by The TransitMan on Thu Feb 7 20:03:52 2008. The MTA needs to clarify the propsed routing of the B77 and B71, probably when the public hearings are announced. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Feb 7 21:35:04 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 7 00:29:20 2008. I know, that's why I call them geese! |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Feb 8 07:41:20 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by The TransitMan on Thu Feb 7 20:03:52 2008. Sure looks that way based on what I've read. Granted, some MTA press release route descriptions aren't always clear. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 8 12:42:15 2008, in response to Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Feb 6 23:17:37 2008. Th only reason why the TA came up with this plan in the first place is because they were forced to extend some routes by the mayor to show how they would be increasing system capacity if congestion pricing goes into effect. Rather than providing new routes from outlying areas or rerouting obsolete routes, they did what would be the cheapest operationally, extend two routes with poor service a short distance without improving service levels. |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sat Feb 9 13:12:09 2008, in response to Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Feb 6 23:17:37 2008. I think with the new Ikea and this proposal, the B 77 will become a brand new route just completly. I am not supporting the idea of using the B 71 because it does not benifit anyone. A 2 or 3 train can do the same thing faster. Here is another suggestion create the B 102. I would be a branch off the B 103 and it would serve and stop at Park Slope and Red Hook via BBT to South Ferry and Lower Manhattan and terminate at Downtown Brooklyn via Manhattan Br (a limited loop route through Lower manhattan.) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Feb 9 14:46:16 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by B49 Limited on Sat Feb 9 13:12:09 2008. No way, that idea would slaughter the BM2's Lower Manhattan ridership. |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sun Feb 10 14:27:08 2008, in response to Re: Red Hook residents like the B71 and B77 to Manhattan plan, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Feb 9 14:46:16 2008. The alternative plan is to follow the BM1 route as its limited and terminate the route at Georgetown (which is need of service anyway). With some adjustments you can eliminate both B 51 and make the BM1 first stop at 23 Street |
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