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FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET

Posted by moviebuses on Thu Nov 22 11:24:51 2007

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Hey Guys,
I would like to know what buses from the vintage fleet could be operated for this service?

I am not looking for personal thoughts about why a bus cant....a old bus that needs paint or is non ADA compliant or is not your personal favorite doesnt matter. I am just looking for what will actually hit the streets. This is a really neat deal and if it proves feasible then maybe other transit companies will follow the trend. Look how popular the MUNI F Line is and what a revolution it started for vintage vehicles.

Is there a complete roster of the vintage fleet?
Please post what kind of bus you are referring to when you mention a bus number as many of us are unfamiliar with the entire fleet.

I would assume that most of the NYCTA Fishbowls could go back into service along with the RTS and Grumman.

I would be thrilled to fly there and ride them on a Sunday....

www.rts-regionaltransitservice.com

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Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 22 11:43:54 2007, in response to FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET, posted by moviebuses on Thu Nov 22 11:24:51 2007.

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You should be in Buschat...

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Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 22 11:46:28 2007, in response to Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 22 11:43:54 2007.

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WAIT! Oops...

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Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 22 11:48:47 2007, in response to Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 22 11:46:28 2007.

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Eaten too much turkey ALREADY?

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Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 22 11:50:52 2007, in response to Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 22 11:48:47 2007.

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LOL! It's still in the oven...

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Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET

Posted by monorail on Thu Nov 22 11:54:38 2007, in response to Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 22 11:50:52 2007.

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perhaps too much alcohol

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Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 22 14:08:44 2007, in response to FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET, posted by moviebuses on Thu Nov 22 11:24:51 2007.

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I think this is the full museum roster. I don't know what the operational status of each bus is.

1917 FACCo Double Decker #303
1938 Yellow Coach Double Decker #2124
1948 GMC TDH5101 #2969 (ex-4789)
1956 Mack C49-DT #6259
1956 GMC TDH5106 #3100 & 7144
1958 GMC TDH5106 #9098
1959 GMC TDH5301 #100
1961 GMC TDH5301 #1059
1962 GMC TDH5301 #2151
1963 GMC TDH5301 #3758
1964 Flxible F2D6V401-1 #5117
1966 GMC TDH5303A #8466
1968 GMC TDH5305A #8928
1969 Flxible 111CC-D5-1 #4727
1970 GMC/Blitz T6H5305A #5227 (ex-4401)
1973 Flxible 53102-6-1 #7340
1979 GMDD T8H5307A Triboro Coach #621 & 623
1980 Grumman 870 #236
1981 GMC RTS T8W204 #1201
1982 GMDD T8H5308A New York Bus Service #1502
1985 GMC RTS T8J204 Green Lines #10001
1988 MCI TC40102A Liberty Lines #3006
1994 TMC RTS T80206 Queens Surface #275, Jamaica #3865
1994 TMC RTS T80206 CNG Command #4904

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by BMTLines on Thu Nov 22 20:46:27 2007, in response to Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 22 14:08:44 2007.

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Do they ever intend to find a public display space for them?

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 23 01:04:31 2007, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by BMTLines on Thu Nov 22 20:46:27 2007.

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I doubt it. Since many of them are operational, they keep them at the garages. Just like the transit museum primarily displays only subway cars that are dead in the water. Most of the operational cars are at places like 207 St, Corona, etc.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 23 01:55:11 2007, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 23 01:04:31 2007.

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"the transit museum primarily displays only subway cars that are dead in the water"

That's not true, the Bu's and Arnines are at the TM and those can run. I believe the reason there are trains stored at Corona or 207th is mainly there isn't enough room in the museum to store all the trains. If there was another site for the TM then they could probably store all the trains over 2 museum sites.
Examples mainly the Nassau line from Bowery to Canal or the lower level of 9th Av on the West End line.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 23 01:56:07 2007, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by BMTLines on Thu Nov 22 20:46:27 2007.

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I wished they would, Floyd Bennet field would be great, I'm sure there is more than enough space there to store teh buses as well as using some of the currently unused Aircraft hangers.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 23 02:19:16 2007, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 23 01:55:11 2007.

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The BU's haven't run in a while.

And how many operable arnines are at Court St?

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 23 02:32:32 2007, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 23 01:56:07 2007.

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Which aircraft hangers there are unused?

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 23 02:33:02 2007, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 23 01:55:11 2007.

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That's not true

No, it is true. I said "primarily".

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 23 03:02:01 2007, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 23 02:32:32 2007.

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I dunno, if they are all used then they should build a building on the field somewhere.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Nov 23 09:44:27 2007, in response to Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 22 14:08:44 2007.

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In the springtime, on a Sunday evening, I actually saw Flexible 7340 moving under its own power on Richmond Avenue, in the direction of Yukon Depot.

It took me 2 seconds to realize it wasn't in service and that this was an unusual sight. I can remember when the blue paint job was the new thing.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 28 16:52:18 2007, in response to Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 22 14:08:44 2007.

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1956 GMC TDH5106 #3100 & 7144

Correction: As noted elsewhere by Westcode44, 7144 is a 1957 TDH5106.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by GMCMan35 on Fri Jan 25 18:09:44 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 23 02:19:16 2007.

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Museum Bus #3758 is a NYCTA 1963 GMC TDH5303 model Fishbowl bus,
not a 5301!

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by metropod on Fri Jan 25 23:30:38 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by GMCMan35 on Fri Jan 25 18:09:44 2008.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by monorail on Fri Jan 25 23:37:23 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 23 01:55:11 2007.

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"the transit museum primarily displays only subway cars that are dead in the water"


they've brought up the reefed 33/36's?????

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by metropod on Sat Jan 26 00:12:29 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 23 02:33:02 2007.

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The only cars that couldn't move themselves when I worked there (July 06-April 07) were 2201 (B Standared-wrong wheel set), 8506 (R30-no mate) and 1612C (Q car-no mates). This isn't counting the snow thrower as that isn't a self propeled unit anyway.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by R30A on Sat Jan 26 12:17:08 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by metropod on Sat Jan 26 00:12:29 2008.

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I think the R30 could run anyway-- Just couple it to the R16...

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jan 28 09:28:50 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by GMCMan35 on Fri Jan 25 18:09:44 2008.

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Museum Bus #3758 is a NYCTA 1963 GMC TDH5303 model Fishbowl bus,
not a 5301!


Whoops; typo! I'm maintaining the updated list at BusTalk.

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Mon Jan 28 11:45:53 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by Grand concourse on Fri Nov 23 01:55:11 2007.

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Thier aint enogh room in the museum for new trains.

I think the transit museum would be alot better if they display Other Museum trains that been held in the yards for like 3 or more years.

they got the same trains in the museum.

The same trains as 2006 when I went to the museum for the first time.

!!!BRING OTHER MUSEUM TRAINS ALREADY!!!

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by GMCMan35 on Mon Jan 28 16:26:09 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jan 28 09:28:50 2008.

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Thank you for the reply and interest in transit bus history!

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Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET)

Posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue Jan 29 08:41:24 2008, in response to Re: Museum roster (Re: FACTUAL INFO ON VINTAGE FLEET), posted by GMCMan35 on Mon Jan 28 16:26:09 2008.

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Interesting note: At one time the TA considered putting a bus down in the museum. They took one of the flat cars, carved out the bottom so that a bus could sit on top of it without being so tall that it would not clear the tunnels. They actually put a bus on and measured it but it was still to high & would not clear the tunnels on the Culver line & Fulton Street between CIY & the museum.

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