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Posted by busdude2 on Sat Sep 29 20:47:23 2007, in response to NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sat Sep 29 20:40:02 2007. Well new jersey transit has ordered just under 1200 416's so I hope they are good. On here you will hear mixed reviews but overall not a bad bus. |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Sun Sep 30 01:29:53 2007, in response to NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sat Sep 29 20:40:02 2007. Where are these buses from? AC Transit? (If they are, hope they have air conditioning retrofitted!) |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Sun Sep 30 02:09:45 2007, in response to Re: NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by roscoman1986 on Sun Sep 30 01:29:53 2007. 1997s? I would think Miami-Dade or somebody, AC Transit's, I'm not sure they are that old... |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Sun Sep 30 04:37:55 2007, in response to Re: NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by Dr. Casca on Sun Sep 30 02:09:45 2007. the 2900s that are in AC Transit's arrived in 1997. The 3000/3100s arrived in 1998/'99. What do these 416s look like ???? |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 30 05:08:53 2007, in response to NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sat Sep 29 20:40:02 2007. Congratulations on your "new" buses! As someone else here said, you'll get a lot of mixed reviews about them.I have the pleasure of riding SEPTAs 1996/1997 NABI 416 to work each day (for the most part). Technically, they are American Ikarus built (which was renamed NABI in the middle of the order), but they are the same basic bus. In my opinion, they seem to be somewhat bulky (not so nimble), yet quite spacious (they can really swallow up a crowd, which I'm sure will help your company). For the most part, they seem to have somewhat smooth ride for the most part (basically over small bumps), but can also rock and bounce quite a bit as well. Also, with a bigger bump, like a pothole, you really feel it (kinda like Gillig Phantoms - the ride quality is quite similar). As SEPTA's NABIs are getting older (1996/1997), each bus can really differ nowadays. Also, maintenance comes to be a factor here as well. I've also ridden DART First State's NABI 416s (2003) and MTA Maryland's 416s (range of years - I rode the 1999/2000 models). Personally, I like them, especially the sound they make when the radiator fans are one (particularly with the DD50). They aren't necessarily the best buses out there, but they are decent. Hope to see them next time I go to Disney world! |
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Posted by Busway Flyer on Sun Sep 30 08:17:59 2007, in response to NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sat Sep 29 20:40:02 2007. I am from Miami, Florida and Miami-Dade Transit's 1997 9701-9750 are the best NABI's Miami has ever had over the 40LFW's. If you want pictures please me offlist at Buswayflyer@aol.com.Charlie - BFTA |
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Posted by PATransit on Sun Sep 30 08:48:22 2007, in response to NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sat Sep 29 20:40:02 2007. I like them, I never rode one in my life but they look good I've always liked them I know alot of philly fans dont like them. |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Sun Sep 30 12:01:00 2007, in response to Re: NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Sep 30 05:08:53 2007. I have rode 2 NABI 416 (or according to NABI the 40-SFW).The first one was a 2000 bus built for MTA Maryland. This bus was a little worn out already, but it rode decently (headsign was busted up as it was a Balios headsign). The second one that I rode was a 1999 bus built for AC Transit. With the exception of a lack of A/C (yes, AC Transit does not have A/C on any of its buses except for its MCIs lol) this bus was very similar to the bus that I have ridden the most in my life (NABI 40-LFW). The ride quality was pretty much the same. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Sep 30 15:44:34 2007, in response to Re: NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by Dr. Casca on Sun Sep 30 02:09:45 2007. Can't be MDT's, they are all still in service (except for one or two lost to fires). |
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Posted by TCO on Sun Sep 30 20:30:34 2007, in response to Re: NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by roscoman1986 on Sun Sep 30 01:29:53 2007. 10-4 all 14 NABI 416 Standard buses came from Ex AC Transit and i peek few buses today saw Ex 2935, 2954, & 2959. I will check other when i come back to work this wednesdayDavid Motor Coach Driver Orlando,Florida |
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Posted by TMC RTS 06 on Mon Oct 1 11:52:16 2007, in response to Re: NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sun Sep 30 20:30:34 2007. This must be more of AC Transit's financial shenanigans to get more Van Stools into service here. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Oct 1 11:58:34 2007, in response to NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sat Sep 29 20:40:02 2007. You just reminded me that I've seen a LOT of random buses in Orlando if you can get to the right place at the right time. I couldn't figure out where they all came and went, I thought I saw old NJT buses running.When they were new in Philly, I kinda liked riding them. They had a bigger heavier feel to me, with wider front door. |
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Posted by railbus63 on Mon Oct 1 15:50:42 2007, in response to NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sat Sep 29 20:40:02 2007. I'm glad to hear that the Downtown Disney shuttle is getting 'real' buses - last time I was there, they were using school bus-type vehicles. Post a few pictures when you have a chance. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 2 00:32:35 2007, in response to NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sat Sep 29 20:40:02 2007. FTR, "Nabi" is the word for "prophet" in both Hebrew and Arabic. |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Tue Oct 2 00:54:54 2007, in response to Re: NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TCO on Sun Sep 30 20:30:34 2007. These are 1997 NABI 416 buses. There is one BIG problem for Florida operation-these buses operated for AC Transit without air conditioning (hence the rear window in the back). I really hope that these buses were retrofitted with rooftop A/C for the steaming Florida summers-and a really strong unit at that!AC Transit is also selling some 2000 model year non-air-conditioned NABI 40-LFW buses to New Orleans. I am not sure if they are going to the RTA (who really needs newer buses) or to another group in the New Orleans area. Those better get A/C too (I don't know what is up with AC Transit selling their buses to the hot South). Also, I don't know how they are getting away with getting rid of these buses way before the FTA 12-year minimum. |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Tue Oct 2 00:56:18 2007, in response to Re: NABI 416 Standard Floor, posted by TMC RTS 06 on Mon Oct 1 11:52:16 2007. Yep, that is the reason actually. Despite the fact that passengers do not like those Belgian-built expensive buses, AC Transit is continuing to order more and more to replace the rest of their bus fleet. |
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