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Trackless is on the move-Philly |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 17:00:11 2007 I rode on the 75 today with my bus driver friend. We spotted the trackless in training at Bingham & Wyoming, westbound ,where I got this shot. The coach has been on all three trackless lines ,no problems to report so far.It is running sweet. the other 37 coaches are on order, should be here Feb. 2008.  Chuck Greene |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 20 17:40:59 2007, in response to Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 17:00:11 2007. Nice photo! Thanks for taking and posting it! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 17:47:06 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 20 17:40:59 2007. Glad you enjoyed! I had to do it really fast as the coach was moving along nicely. So far,so good.When the fleet comes in next February, 2008, there's talk of some charters. I'll keep you guys updated. |
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Posted by RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 20 18:55:23 2007, in response to Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 17:00:11 2007. Hi Chuck: Is it true that the two southern Philly lines no longer operate?Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Wed Jun 20 20:12:38 2007, in response to Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 17:00:11 2007. Hi Chuck,Thanks for that great photo. That's one good-looking trackless. Can't wait to ride them in regular service. Do I sense fan-trip? Best wishes, Bob |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 20:55:03 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by bklynsubwaybob on Wed Jun 20 20:12:38 2007. Not until the fleet comes in, Feb. 2008. I'll be there, and I'll be there for revenue service. My friend Leon is an operator. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 20:56:06 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by RedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 20 18:55:23 2007. Yes, sadly. SEPTA did not exercise the option for 23 more coaches, so it's dead. |
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Posted by andy on Thu Jun 21 09:54:44 2007, in response to Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 17:00:11 2007. So based on this and subsequent postings, is it correct that only the Frankford Routes - 59, 66, 75 - will get new trackless coaches?If that is true 38 coaches seems like a small number for those three routes, considering that 59 and 66 are long and busy feeder routes to the El. How many coaches are required on those routes? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 10:53:20 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by andy on Thu Jun 21 09:54:44 2007. Thanks for your reply. I am very excited about this project.SEPTA decided to buy only 38 coaches for the three Frankford routes. I am sure they calculated rush hour usage and spares. The remaining 40 Ft. Neoplan buses,(35 of them) from 1988, IIRC, will be scrapped when the full fleet of coaches is in and running on the street. Again they calculated an additional 23 coaches for the 2 Southern routes, 29 & 79, which also would need some improvements to the wires and infrastructure, plus a planned extension of the route 29 to Pier 70. So there is little hope left for those those two routes. I agree that 38 coaches does seem a bit high, but I have to trust SEPTA's planning. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Thu Jun 21 11:08:10 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 10:53:20 2007. It sounds like they ordered 3 extra ETB's for Frankford so that could be for the service expansions they might be planning for who knows what or to to have some spare ETB's around |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 11:48:45 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by QM18Express on Thu Jun 21 11:08:10 2007. Sounds good to me. BTW, the coach is beautiful and drives like a New Flyer bus, after which it is designed. The operators are being trained on it and are very excited! |
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Posted by QM18Express on Thu Jun 21 12:52:13 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 11:48:45 2007. Thats great to hear. I hope they put it in passenger service testing to see if it can handle day to day service |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 13:28:36 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by QM18Express on Thu Jun 21 12:52:13 2007. Thanks.When the fleet comes in, the first units will be assigned to the "early straight" runs, so they will get a good workout. They are so much like a New Flyer Low Floor bus, they should be OK. The only issue so far is they won't fit in the Frankford wash bay. So they may have to brush wash them outside. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Thu Jun 21 19:56:23 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 13:28:36 2007. Hopefuly they can work something out on how to clean those buses or invest in fixing up the wash bay to allow the E40LFR's to go in there |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 20:09:44 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by QM18Express on Thu Jun 21 19:56:23 2007. I hope so too. |
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Posted by The I Man on Thu Jun 21 21:03:56 2007, in response to Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 17:00:11 2007. This is great news. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 21:23:28 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by The I Man on Thu Jun 21 21:03:56 2007. I am excited, I can't wait for the rest of them to come in and ride. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 23 02:00:28 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Jun 21 10:53:20 2007. I have to trust SEPTA's planningGuess that makes one of us . . . I've yet to find someone that trusts SEPTA's planning, at least of his own volition. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 23 02:00:59 2007, in response to Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 17:00:11 2007. One small step for man, one giant leap for SEPTA.Thanks for the pic. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jun 23 07:38:00 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 23 02:00:28 2007. I've yet to find someone that trusts SEPTA's planning, at least of his own volition.I am waiting with my fingers crossed. I know their track record. Glad you enjoyed the picture. My Nikon Cool-Pix 3100 caught the action well. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 26 11:10:50 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 20 20:56:06 2007. Does dead mean the wires are gone? Is it hopeless? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jun 26 11:30:21 2007, in response to Re: Trackless is on the move-Philly, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 26 11:10:50 2007. I'm not sure, but I think the wires are still up in South Philly.I'll try to find out more. |
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