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Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007

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Here are the two pictures of the demo 1292A.





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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jun 11 23:25:18 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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Thats what we have in Manhattanville right now.
I'll found out Thursday whats the deal with it.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Jun 11 23:50:06 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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The front and sides are nice, but the rear looks awful.

Overall, though, it's a step up from the old Orion VII.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Jun 11 23:56:09 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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I think the NYC MTA has to stop ordering this crap immediately! It looks hideous! It has an awful ride! It's too small! I think the new design looks worse than the current one. And I hate that one too.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Tue Jun 12 00:04:48 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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I like it! It looks like an actual bus now in comparison to the original box-on-wheels design of the original O7s.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by aznboy4305 on Tue Jun 12 00:05:47 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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Thank GOD someone came up with that blackout treatment around the windshield. Now I wanna see which TA will be stupid enough to order units with that part painted...

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Bingham C50 on Tue Jun 12 01:42:58 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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Very nice.
I like it.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Bingham C50 on Tue Jun 12 01:48:10 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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Very nice.
I like it.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 12 07:23:07 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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Is that a back window I see?

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 12 07:28:11 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 12 07:23:07 2007.

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I don't think so.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 12 07:36:05 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 12 07:28:11 2007.

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So what would be that thing on the back? (no sarcasm, I really don't know)

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Jun 12 08:05:13 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 12 07:36:05 2007.

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That's a vent.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jun 12 09:13:49 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by aznboy4305 on Tue Jun 12 00:05:47 2007.

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Thank GOD someone came up with that blackout treatment around the windshield. Now I wanna see which TA will be stupid enough to order units with that part painted...

Undoubtedly, NYCTA would the perfect candidate. Or they'd do something like getting the black trim and then painting it white during rehab.


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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 12 09:31:24 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 12 07:36:05 2007.

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In the photo you can see that there are mechanical objects behind the screen, and that it is not a window into the passenger space of the bus.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by railbus63 on Tue Jun 12 09:46:46 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Jun 11 23:56:09 2007.

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Don't hold back - tell us what you really think! :)

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Jun 12 12:52:05 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by aznboy4305 on Tue Jun 12 00:05:47 2007.

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Several TAs have done that with the similar treatment on the redesigned New Flyer buses - Mississauga Transit and OCTA come to mind.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Transit Guy on Tue Jun 12 13:06:34 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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I hope if MTA Bus or NYCTA does order this, I hope they keep as much black as they can.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by WillD on Tue Jun 12 16:54:27 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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Haha, just like the first O7 it looks like a bootleg NFI '40LFR. Can't Onion design anything for themselves? Oh right, the O6 was a miserable failure.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Eric B on Tue Jun 12 18:54:55 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by aznboy4305 on Tue Jun 12 00:05:47 2007.

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How about that part being part of the windshield, so you can see better out of it. I don't know why everyone's keeping the front windshield the same height as the high floors.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by PATransit on Tue Jun 12 19:55:06 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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yuck they seriously need to stop with this new generation crap, that is one very ugly bus I dont like it. Too futuristic looking for me.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jun 12 20:15:19 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Jun 12 12:52:05 2007.

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So has SEPTA...was disappointing, but at least in the SEPTA scheme, it seems to work decently enough.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jun 12 20:21:16 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by aznboy4305 on Tue Jun 12 00:05:47 2007.

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Exactly my thoughts...I can't imagine it looking good without that part.

In fact, I'm wondering how someone's going to put the company logo on the front of the bus. There doesn't seem to be a flat spot availble save for the black part under the windshield. Forget about front ads unless you add that rack thing.

Too many frills, although the headlights are growing on me. That back just doesn't work for me, though. Just as I adjusted to the back of the old Orion VII...

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 12 21:39:22 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jun 12 20:21:16 2007.

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The headlights are the worst part of it, IMHO.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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Spotted this kitten @ 3rd Ave/125th Street, heading westbound following the M60 route...





--Dr. Casca

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 12 22:59:15 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007.

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good catch

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by David of Broadway on Tue Jun 12 23:03:26 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007.

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Nice.

So it's the Earth Day bus. I don't think it was 1292A yet on Earth Day.

The white trim on the upper half of the doors is awful.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Cornell Park on Tue Jun 12 23:09:56 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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UGH!!!

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Jun 12 23:19:38 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by David of Broadway on Tue Jun 12 23:03:26 2007.

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Can't wait till we get them. Then all my crybaby's who want 6700's now will not like them anymore and will want these pieces of junk!


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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Jun 13 08:29:23 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by PATransit on Tue Jun 12 19:55:06 2007.

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Umm..wow. Nearly every single fleet we have was "new generation crap" at one time or another.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Jun 13 08:31:13 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jun 12 20:21:16 2007.

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Maybe this new bus design will force the MTA to come up with a new paint scheme rather than the 'ol 80s-esque bland blue stripe.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Transit Guy on Wed Jun 13 10:01:17 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007.

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I'm surprised they haven't removed the Earth Day wrap still. I really hope though that the MTA might explore new paint scheme since this bus will look weird with it (I hope they keep as much black as they can). Also, they won't be able to place ads or their own logo on it. Can anyone see one of those front fishbowl ad racks going in front :) Nice catch and thanks for sharing.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 13 12:49:53 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Jun 13 08:29:23 2007.

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Yes, but most werent as hideously ugly as the O7.

Either way, it IS a big improvement.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 13 12:52:28 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007.

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That bus looks very... bulky. I don't get why the center door is taller than the front door.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 13 13:14:52 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Jun 13 08:31:13 2007.

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Not according to what was posted here yesterday or so.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by K1barbourstreet on Wed Jun 13 13:55:45 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007.

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What the heck is that second tank on the roof next to the engine pipe?

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 13 14:31:59 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by K1barbourstreet on Wed Jun 13 13:55:45 2007.

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What the heck

You ask that as if there is something wrong with having a second tank? Or are you just really passionate?

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by 3440 on Wed Jun 13 17:25:52 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by K1barbourstreet on Wed Jun 13 13:55:45 2007.

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I think it's the A/C unite,since the bus have a back window.

BJC

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 13 18:09:28 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by 3440 on Wed Jun 13 17:25:52 2007.

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But it doesn't have a back window.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Jun 13 21:31:13 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 13 12:52:28 2007.

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well, think of how the current Orion VIIs are with the tall front and rear doors. Orion just shrank the front door on these models and kept the center door as normal.

That's one of my pet peeves about the design.

I wonder what all that junk is on top. I recognize the battery pack as per the regular Orion VII hybrids, but what about the back portions.

This vehicle is definitely not as sleek as the New Flyer LFR series.

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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 13 21:50:21 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007.

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Yet another shot of her, taken today:



--Dr. Casca

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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Jun 13 22:02:14 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 13 21:50:21 2007.

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Nice Shot. I think I like the old boxy O7's more than the NG O7. The MTA wrap will definitely look bizzare on this bus so I guess they'll have to think of something new. Does anyone know when this will go into service and on which routes?


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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 13 23:29:17 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 13 21:50:21 2007.

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Was this along 125 Street as well Carlton? Nice pics! (If so, I will probably be looking for this bus tomorrow or Friday.)

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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 13 23:47:52 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 13 23:29:17 2007.

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125th/St. Nicholas...on my way to work...

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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City

Posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 13 23:48:28 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 13 23:29:17 2007.

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125th/St. Nicholas...on my way to work...It seems to follow the M60 route from end to end, one of my friends in Queens said he saw it over there...

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by Channel 7 Eyewitness News on Thu Jun 14 09:23:02 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by railbus63 on Tue Jun 12 09:46:46 2007.

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I agree the old design is horrendous but this one is better tenfold. Of course it is not as good as my favoirte the RTS.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by subwaysurf on Thu Jun 14 10:23:45 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by Channel 7 Eyewitness News on Thu Jun 14 09:23:02 2007.

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Nothing will ever equal the beauty of the RTS.

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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada

Posted by TMC RTS 06 on Thu Jun 14 18:44:00 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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Hideous.

Thank god OBI is in New York. I'd go buy 10 cars rather than ride in a monstrosity like that. Hell, the old O7 spanks this thing, and I don't even like it.

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More Orion VII NG PHOTOS

Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jun 14 21:24:32 2007, in response to Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 11 23:06:47 2007.

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I spent a good deal of time searching for this bus today, but I finally found it:











Enjoy!

I don't care what people say, I actually like this bus. It could be better -- but it's miles ahead of the old Orion VII.

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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS

Posted by fishbowls4ever on Thu Jun 14 21:43:21 2007, in response to More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jun 14 21:24:32 2007.

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That is one fugly bus, i like were the rear licence plate is in the middle of now were. I see it has tow hooks on the front i guess they now there crap and will be breaking alot. I know its a low flow junk wait till i get old yada yada yada

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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS

Posted by PATransit on Thu Jun 14 22:53:47 2007, in response to More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jun 14 21:24:32 2007.

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question about how they make the door is there actually a window up above it?

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