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New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 30 23:24:00 2007

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Press release from the Westchester County DOT.

This route will rum express from the Transcenter to the airport seven days a week.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by QM18Express on Wed May 30 23:31:13 2007, in response to New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 30 23:24:00 2007.

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DAMN YOU BEAT ME TO IT!

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 30 23:37:23 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by QM18Express on Wed May 30 23:31:13 2007.

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You said it in the chat...but you didn't post it.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by R40SlantontheB on Wed May 30 23:47:43 2007, in response to New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 30 23:24:00 2007.

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I wish Nassau county would take the same initiative and have some new LI Bus routes. The last time there was a major improvement at LI Bus as far as new routes go was the N43.
And the N43 now gets very high ridership.


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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by PATHman on Thu May 31 00:32:53 2007, in response to New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 30 23:24:00 2007.

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Dammit. I thought they were referring to a second Westchester-Manhattan express route. Oh well.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 00:56:23 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by PATHman on Thu May 31 00:32:53 2007.

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It's still an express route to an area that absolutely needs more service. But IMO, this route should also serve SUNY Purchase after the 12 service ends on Saturdays.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 31 07:27:17 2007, in response to New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 30 23:24:00 2007.

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So would this new route (which I'm calling 12X for the purpose of this discussion) mean some kind of service reduction on the existing Route 12? Would 12's which would run to WCA be 12X's now, or would all 12's be extended to Jefferson Valley Mall? (The demand for such a service expansion is questionable, but it would be less confusing.)

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 08:54:23 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 31 07:27:17 2007.

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Westchester County Airport has gotten a significant expansion in flights, however.

The route will simply be called "Airlink". The schedule is already online (PDF). I would expect that the 12 would still have short runs for local service.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 08:56:42 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 08:54:23 2007.

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Where Westchester Co. Airport has flights to, such as Toronto, Philly, and DC.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by railbus63 on Thu May 31 09:13:29 2007, in response to New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 30 23:24:00 2007.

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They should wrap a few buses for this service, similar to how CT Transit has certain D40LF's wrapped for the I-Bus service.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 09:16:51 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by railbus63 on Thu May 31 09:13:29 2007.

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From what I understand, the buses will be a dedicated fleet. Not sure if the buses will be wrapped, as they will probably have to be used on other routes as needed to get to/from Yonkers (on weekdays, it would be logical to have the route from Grasslands, but that depot is closed on weekends).

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by QM18Express on Thu May 31 09:17:58 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 08:54:23 2007.

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I heard they got problems with parking because I always get the alerts in the e-mail saying that for people who want to park at the airport should find another way to go as they long term lot is starting to fill up pretty often, even on major travel days and fridays before a major holiday.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 10:01:33 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by QM18Express on Thu May 31 09:17:58 2007.

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The ironic part is that at this time, there isn't an alternative way other than by taxi because there is no bus service there on evenings or Sundays.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by QM18Express on Thu May 31 10:21:22 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 10:01:33 2007.

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well they suggested in the e-mail to have somebody to drop them off at the airport

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by Sid from NJ on Thu May 31 11:15:24 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 09:16:51 2007.

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The article says some seats will be removed to provide luggage rack space, so this will definitely be a dedicated fleet.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 11:21:07 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by Sid from NJ on Thu May 31 11:15:24 2007.

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I'd like to see how it will be done, at least on weekends, because the weekday depot is unavailable on weekends.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu May 31 11:31:39 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 11:21:07 2007.

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I'd like to see how it will be done, at least on weekends, because the weekday depot is unavailable on weekends.

Um, there is a depot that is open 7 days a week. It is on Nepperhan Ave in a city called Yonkers. And while you are at it, why are you posing this question when Routes 12, 13, 14, 15 (Sat only) already have weekend service?


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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 12:20:22 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu May 31 11:31:39 2007.

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Uh genius, a deadhead from Yonkers to White Plains is 45 minutes or so. As for the 12, 13, 14, 15, and 19...they are interlined with a down-county route to get them up county.

At the end of the up county service (i.e., last trip), the bus on one of the other routes will deadhead either down to White Plains or Grasslands, and do one final trip down to Yonkers, Mount Vernon, or the Bronx, and then pull-in from there.

EARTH TO GERBER! ANYBODY HOME?

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 12:23:13 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu May 31 11:31:39 2007.

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Because the 12, 13, 14, 15, and 19 are not "exclusive runs" (that is, the runs on those route are interlined with down-county routes---and this is also done on weekdays, where a bus from the Bronx runs to Port Chester as a 61, becomes a 13, runs to Ossining, becomes a 19, runs to Pleasantville, goes OOS, deadheads to Grasslands, becomes a 1C, runs down to 242, and then pulls in from the subway.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by QM18Express on Thu May 31 12:31:02 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 12:20:22 2007.

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You forgot about the BXM4C that runs out of Upper County on weekdays and at 475 on weekends and a few weekday trips(904, 928-937)

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 31 12:38:38 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by QM18Express on Thu May 31 12:31:02 2007.

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That, IINM, is the only route that deadheads from White Plains to Yonkers...and that is only because of the dedicated fleet.

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu May 31 21:11:15 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by R40SlantontheB on Wed May 30 23:47:43 2007.

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N43 was an amazing addition to the system. Yellin wanted to do express bus service, which I've always said is something we need

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Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu May 31 21:13:21 2007, in response to Re: New Bee-Line express service to start June 18, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu May 31 07:27:17 2007.

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Demand is definitely NOT questionable. White Plains is a major employment draw with many business travelers visiting

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