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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 13:32:30 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 09:29:10 2007. That's another thing MTA Bus should probably do, post notices at the former Q35 stops. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 13:33:33 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 03:30:25 2007. I hope you're right, the last time I went to Rockaway Park, it seemed like a very strange area. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 13:59:53 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 12:40:43 2007. Would these be those four: H, I, O, S, T?No. A, B, D, F. And even that's pedantic. Where's Av H between Ocean Av and Nostrand Av? Where's Av I between one side of the Brighton Line and the other? Where's Av O between 65 St and Dahill Rd? Where's Av O between E27 St and Flatbush Av? Where's Av O between E49 St and Utica Av? Would the real Av S and Gerritsen Av please stand up? Where's Av S between Stuart Av and E32 St? Where's Av T between Stuart Av and E33 St? |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Mar 11 15:40:45 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 13:59:53 2007. The south sidewalk of Avenue I runs underneath the Brighton line. That's good enough. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 16:00:06 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Mar 11 15:40:45 2007. Okay, I suppose that's five then. Still not a very impressive showing versus the nineteen with discontinuities, overlaps, etc. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 11 16:01:53 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 13:59:53 2007. That would be Stuart Street, not Stuart Avenue. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 16:02:42 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 11 16:01:53 2007. Indeed. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 11 16:06:02 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 16:02:42 2007. I attended Marine Park Junior High School # 278 (or whatever it is called nowadays) during the Nixon administration, so that street brings back memories! :-) |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sun Mar 11 16:17:35 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 13:59:53 2007. Ave A does exist between Ralph and Linden Blvd. It is also known as Albermarle RdAVE B also exist between Ralph and E 98 St. It is also known as Beverley Rd Ave C does exist by Coney Island Av it is also known as Corteleyou Rd Ave D is Ditmas Av, but it is confusing at East flatbush Ave E does not exists, it has to be Foster Av Ave F does exist bet Ocean Pkwy and McDonald av which is Farragut rd Ave G - Glenwood Rd The houses by E 56 St creates the confusion when Glenwood turns into Farragut and Ave H turns into Glenwood. the proof is the curve at the yield sign shows the road would have been diagonal. Also keep in mind the street names change in East NY. Glenwood - Cozine Farragut - Wortman Foster - Stanley |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 11 16:23:00 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by B49 Limited on Sun Mar 11 16:17:35 2007. >>Ave C does exist by Coney Island Av it is also known as Corteleyou Rd<<Both Ave C and Cortelyou Road exist between Coney Isl Ave and McDonald Ave. Possibly even one more block west to Dahill Road, but I forget on that one. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 11 16:26:51 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 13:59:53 2007. Avenue H is interrupted by Brooklyn College. Avenue S and T had that section demapped with Marine Park (the park may or may not have superceded the grid).The only avenue letter not here is Avenue E. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 16:43:21 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 12:56:10 2007. It's a good idea and I compliment you for that recommendation. I actually like the idea of having both directions of a single route travel up the same street in the same direction. When I first rode it, when I was very little, I was thinking "Cool!" |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 16:47:28 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 11 13:10:40 2007. Apparently, even that doesn't do it. I am almost certain numerous lives have been lost there. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 16:54:54 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 16:47:28 2007. Probably not as many as one segment of Queens Blvd. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 16:57:48 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 13:33:33 2007. How so? Very residential yes, but nothing out of the ordinary. I rode it lots of times last fall and it was a nice ride. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 16:59:21 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 00:22:35 2007. Again the problem is BUNCHING a few backups on the B41 and you can have up to 3 buses together at one point and a 15min gap. That's where the Q35 is very helpful.Do you ride the Q35 everyday? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 17:40:03 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 16:00:06 2007. I don't see what the big deal is regarding discontinuities (known as interrupted streets. A lot of streets are interrupted by parks, cemeteries. etc. Avenue O is interrupted by Flatbush Bus Depot.All things considered, Brooklyn does pretty well with having most of its numbered Streets with few or no interruptions. In many areas you can drive without a map just by knowing the grid system. Sure once in while you will get stuck by a street that dead ends. Compare that with Queens where the grid system is virtually useless in getting around without a map. Unlike Brooklyn, you must pinpoint your destination on a map and then plot your course. That is because the average numbered street in Queens is interrupted six times if it is any longer than three blocks. In Brooklyn it is more like once or twice with many continuous streets. The first time I was in Queens by car, my uncle tried to use Brooklyn logic in finding an address in Queens without using a map. He figured he could just drive down 147 Avenue until he gets to the right number. The street would end every couple of blocks. When he found it again, it would end soon thereafter or the one-way traffic would be reversed. It took us forever to get to our destination. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 17:43:43 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 16:43:21 2007. I thought you said it was "crazy." Imagine how confusing it would have been if there was a stop on East 15 Street with so many drivers forgetting to change their signs when they get to the end of the route. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 17:50:45 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 11 13:10:40 2007. When I said "NYCDOT says" I meant that it is in the final recommendations of the Southern Brooklyn Transportation Investment Study issued last year and agreed to by NYCDOT. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sun Mar 11 21:05:47 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 16:59:21 2007. Thanks, GC, exactly my point!To Far Rockaway A Train (you know me): here's an excellent example of the problem for people that live in the neighborhoods along the Flatbush Avenue cooridor -- One day Last month, I was waiting around 6:30 pm for a B41 to Avenue U to get to an appointment. I was already waiting 15 mintues for a bus. Finally, I spotted one heading my way south on Flatbush Avenue, but it turned out to be a LIMITED....then about five mintues later came ANOTHER B41 LIMITED, again passing me by! Then a couple of mintues later guess what happenned? A Q35 pulls up to the stop and I get on....so you see the problem now? I waited 15 mintues and the first two B41s turned out to be back-to-back LIMITED buses that most likely blew past an overcrowded and stuck-in-traffic B41 local bus somewhere north of the Junction. Now do you understand why people that live at local stops along Flatbush Avenue south of Nostrand Junction get screwed ROYALLY w/o the option of the Q35 making local stops? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 21:32:17 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Mar 11 21:05:47 2007. You solve this problem with better supervision or more short turn B41s not with the Q35. In the case you cited, if there was a way to determine where the buses are located along the route at a particular time and there should be, one of the limiteds should have been turned into a local, just like they do with the trains when there are severe delays. The buses have two-way radios. There are things that can be done. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 22:10:03 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 21:32:17 2007. Easy to say, but how do you enforce it? hem? Perhaps there was a need for more limiteds = a sacrifice of locals. The B41 is a very busy line where it can have major backups while the Q35 from Queens is relatively smooth and w/out much problems aside from if the drawbridge is raised.I stated numerous times, if on a local stop you have to FLAG DOWN a Q35 to get the driver's attention to stop anyways. It is not like they automaically stopped at all local stops in the first place anyway and at times a Q35 even caught up to a LIMITED B41. It was not that slow when it made all stops. :sigh: I hate it when ppl who don't ride a line everyday thinks they know everything about it. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Mar 12 02:51:50 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 13:32:30 2007. I second that motion. |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Mon Mar 12 05:42:35 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Mar 12 02:51:50 2007. What I do not understand is if this is a MTA NYCT bus route it would be posted on mta.info and on the stops. Why is MTA bus treated so differently like its former private bus company. I mean no guide - a rides. Information of service changes are so late. There should at least a month warning posted. Again like someone has mention if I did not know about this site I would be an idiot standing at Ave K and watch all these Q 35 passing by. |
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Posted by petabread2 on Mon Mar 12 07:36:47 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by B49 Limited on Mon Mar 12 05:42:35 2007. Well, Guide-A-Rides won't be around for at least another year for mta bus local routes. Second, notices were posted on buses. As far as the website goes, that is a little odd. The Q113 changes got posted but not the Q35 so I don't really know. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Mar 12 07:51:12 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by petabread2 on Mon Mar 12 07:36:47 2007. A lot of changes are not posted on the website, like the Q66's extension, the change in the Q23's route in Forest Hills, and the Q72's full-time extension to LaGuardia. |
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Posted by petabread2 on Mon Mar 12 08:05:46 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Mar 12 07:51:12 2007. The Q72 was posted the others were not. |
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Posted by petabread2 on Mon Mar 12 08:10:41 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by petabread2 on Mon Mar 12 08:05:46 2007. Remember when the Q11 change occured, I went there that tuesday and people were lined up at the old stop even with the sign clearly posted. My point, though there should always be signs posted up, only bus fans will take notice if there were notices on bus stops. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Mar 12 10:12:05 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 22:10:03 2007. You reduce the numbers of Downtown Brooklyn buses and increase buses either from the Junction or Empire Blvd to the southern ends, or increase both if budget permits.Better markings of the bus lanes will keep cars that don't belong there out (those not making a right turn). Different color paving, etc. A worn out diamond on asphalt does not do the trick. Police enforcement also will help. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon Mar 12 10:13:18 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by B49 Limited on Mon Mar 12 05:42:35 2007. But on the flip side, MTA Bus has posted the details of planned service diversions, while MTA NYCT almost never does that. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon Mar 12 12:29:02 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Mar 12 10:12:05 2007. Enforcement is the key.I wouldn't be at all opposed to other means of enforcement if the police aren't willing to do their jobs -- e.g., a combination of cameras and E-ZPass readers. Right turns are a problem, since it's not clear exactly where somebody making a right turn is permitted to enter the bus lane, and right turns delay bus service. On Madison Avenue, right turns are banned along the dual bus lane. That's obviously not practical everywhere, but perhaps there could be some sort of split phasing so that cars would never drive in the bus lane at all but would turn across it. And the typical hours of operation are much too narrow. As long as traffic is heavy, buses should have exclusive use of the curb lane. Turning over the curb lane to, e.g., overnight parking or midday truck loading might make sense in some cases, but in general, the lane should be for buses only. |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Mar 12 13:56:58 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by petabread2 on Thu Mar 8 22:15:58 2007. Signs on the buses are great assuming (a) passengers read them; (b) every passenger reads and understands English. For many years, every LI BUS has had a sign taped on the front windshield and/or behind the driver stating "EASTBOUND LI BUSES DO NOT DROP OFF PASSENGERS IN QUEENS".Virtually every time I've ridden an N20 or 21 out of Flushing, SOMEONE inevitably rings the bell along Sanford Avenue. If the driver doesn't stop, the offended passenger starts jabbering in his/her language- or simply waits until the next time the driver stops to pick someone up and gets off there. Sometimes the driver just shrugs and opens the door anyway. This doesn't always seem to be a case of ignorance. A lot of people who do this are carrying huge parcels and shopping bags from popular stores known to be in Manhattan or downtown Flushing. So they're probably from the neighborhood and would rather use their own private Limited than the crummy Q12 local. Or, as one driver said "Listen, you try to pull this every week! You wanna get off here, use the Q12- or you stay on to City Line!" Of course, they get off the next time someone gets on. |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Mon Mar 12 15:53:46 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by David of Broadway on Mon Mar 12 10:13:18 2007. Huh? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Mon Mar 12 16:16:06 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by David of Broadway on Mon Mar 12 12:29:02 2007. As long as traffic is heavy, buses should have exclusive use of the curb lane.That's just asking for obstruction by illegal parking. I'd rather make the center lanes bus lanes and introduce the tramway rule for stops. |
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My review of the new Q35 Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by QM18Express on Mon Mar 12 16:51:48 2007, in response to It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:06:16 2007. Friday and Saturday I rode the Q35. I do like the new Q35 service but when I rode it on friday some people did not understand that it was making certain stops. 1 person starting ringing the bell like crazy after passing Ave P. 3 girls on the bus did not notice til after Ave R that it now makes certain stops.Saturday was much better then Friday and no problems or passengers complaining about missing their stops. Friday I had 4243 and Saturday was 3580 |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Mar 12 16:53:42 2007, in response to My review of the new Q35 Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by QM18Express on Mon Mar 12 16:51:48 2007. The Q35 ride was cool, and the sounds that Hybrid has is crazy. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Mon Mar 12 17:01:06 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happened: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Mar 12 13:56:58 2007. One time I was on the N22 or N22A(Sort of forgot the route but I knew the street the bus was on) this guy wanted to get off at like the stop after Francis Lewis Blvd(200 something st) and he did not get off til like the 2nd stop in Nassau(Across from the shopping center where Waldbaums is). |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 12 17:11:35 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 17:50:45 2007. And watch its funding get pushed back because there is (actually, there is) a massive backlog of projects. Only when someone dies and a suit is threatened will the DOT fast-track it. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 12 17:11:40 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 17:50:45 2007. And watch its funding get pushed back because there is (actually, there is) a massive backlog of projects. Only when someone dies and a suit is threatened will the DOT fast-track it. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 12 17:12:37 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 16:54:54 2007. Or (although not a NYC example) as much as a segment of Roosevelt Boulevard in Philly---the real Boulevard of Death. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon Mar 12 17:35:35 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Mon Mar 12 15:53:46 2007. Look at the advisory for the BxM9. Ever see anything like that for NYCT routes? This is all we get. Parade? Street fair? Good luck finding your bus! (I once found myself on an M72 that ran down Park Avenue from 72 to 49 because of a parade on 5th Avenue.) |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon Mar 12 17:40:13 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Mon Mar 12 16:16:06 2007. That will certainly never happen in this city!The current arrangement is asking for obstruction by illegal parking because there are so many exceptions. Institute a consistent rule -- buses only, period -- and enforce it. You need to park your car? Park it around the corner. When it comes to the bus lane, the movement of a busload full of passengers has priority over the storage of a single automobile. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Mar 12 18:32:24 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Mar 12 10:12:05 2007. Reducing the amount of trips ending North of Empire Boulevard is not a smart idea, especially considering that a lot of trips already end at Nostrand Avenue and Empire Boulevard and that segment of the line gets a lot of ridership (not as much as South of Empire Boulevard/Nostrand Avenue, but still a large amount). However, I think that you can maybe get away with cutting a small amount of trips at Atlantic Avenue. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Mon Mar 12 18:44:21 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Mar 12 18:32:24 2007. Maybe a split like the M10/M20 would be a good idea. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Mar 12 19:03:50 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Mon Mar 12 18:44:21 2007. I don't think that's necessary in this case. The B41 most of the time is a quick trip, especially South of Nostrand Avenue and usually only takes an hour. Also, both ends (minus the Bergen Beach branch) of the B41 are at places of interest and a lot of the B41 riders ride from Downtown Brooklyn to Kings Plaza and vice-versa to do shopping and etc... and making their one seat ride turning into a two seat ride really wouldn't make sense in this case. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Mar 12 21:54:26 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 17:43:43 2007. "Crazy" and "cool" are not contradictory terms in my mind. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Mar 12 22:07:30 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Mar 12 10:12:05 2007. See, easy to say, but is it really practical? Oh yeah and bunching again on the B41 4 buses [2 per direction Bb and Kp] arrived at the Junction and a Q35 shows up. Jee wouldn't it have been nice if that Q35 had been a local to ease up the crowding at the Junction? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Mar 12 22:10:20 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 13:32:30 2007. Well if it is some minor consolidation - there are signs that states where the Q35 no longer stops at on the bus poles. And most Q35 signs have been removed already [Fillmore southbound I think is among them]. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Mar 12 22:19:44 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:15:15 2007. Perhaps, but it will still be bogged down due to bunching and then you'd be taking away service for north of the Junction. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Mar 13 08:02:45 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Mar 12 10:12:05 2007. Better markings of the bus lanes will keep cars that don't belong there out (those not making a right turn). Different color paving, etc. A worn out diamond on asphalt does not do the trick. Police enforcement also will help.It would be nice if there were to be physical barriers as well. That would largely keep cars out. |
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