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Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 10 12:48:28 2025, in response to There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 10 10:32:57 2025. They probably do think they are correct. They also don’t read |
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Posted by Allen45 on Wed Sep 10 13:51:20 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 10 12:48:28 2025. You can thank Mark Gorton! |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Sep 10 14:25:54 2025, in response to There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 10 10:32:57 2025. Have you looked at a Queens bus map? There are 9 bus routes on Hillside, 11 on Jamaica, and 17 on Archer. Who cares if those streets are near each other? They all need bus lanes. |
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Posted by GOLD_12tH on Wed Sep 10 14:27:17 2025, in response to There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 10 10:32:57 2025. Northern Blvd does not even need it with the demand barely can handle two IRT cars nor does Hillside Avenue for their own lane. NYCT and DOT are really crazy |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 10 14:28:24 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Allen45 on Wed Sep 10 13:51:20 2025. Who? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 10 14:48:28 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Sep 10 14:25:54 2025. There are only two bus routes west of Merrick Blvd and one is just the fewer stops version of the other. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Sep 11 07:21:58 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Sep 10 14:25:54 2025. There are 9 bus routes on Hillside, 11 on Jamaica, and 17 on Archer.The criteria should be: the number of individual the number of individual bus trips per hour and average time per hour spent on the streets for each bus trip. The product of these 2 parameters yields the expected bus utilization of the street. N.B. mitigating utilization is the number of bus crossings and time spent crossing at each intersection. If the intersection crossings cannot handle the expected number of buses, then bus lanes between crossings won't help - even if vehicles were entirely eliminated. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Sep 11 08:45:08 2025, in response to There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 10 10:32:57 2025. I've always thought traffic-signal priority (TSP) would be better. It helps buses move along without eliminating road space. While the places around the world that use it seem to integrate it with bus (or tram) lanes, I don't get the sense that the bus lane is essential.Of course TSP does not issue violations to drivers or have photogenic infrastructure, so it doesn't bring in obvious revenue and isn't easy for a person or political group to brag over. |
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Posted by Allen45 on Thu Sep 11 14:10:24 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 10 14:28:24 2025. https://nypost.com/2024/06/16/us-news/meet-the-anti-vaxx-millionaire-donor-behind-congestion-pricing-and-rfk-jr/ |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Sep 11 14:56:27 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Sep 11 07:21:58 2025. Sure. But bus routes, especially those serving major transit hubs like Jamaica, are a useful proxy. |
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Posted by Snilcher on Thu Sep 11 15:57:14 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Allen45 on Thu Sep 11 14:10:24 2025. That news item is over a year old. Just in case you get confused by the talk about pausing of the congestion pricing program. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Sep 12 07:09:56 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Sep 11 07:21:58 2025. They shouldn’t be in effect when buses are more than 5 minutes apart. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 12 08:17:25 2025, in response to Re: There are too many bus lanes nowadays, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Sep 12 07:09:56 2025. They shouldn’t be in effect when buses are more than 5 minutes apart.This translates to 60 buses per hour per intersection, if the total amount of buses are 5 minutes apart. The report threshold was 100 crossings per hour the last time I ran my intersection crossing program. Hillside intersections with bus crossings with 100 or more bus crossings per hour appear on this list between 6-7am and 8-9pm. I'm rewriting the program to make it applicable to any transit agency in the world that publishes a GTFS schedule. I believe that NYC intersections are the most crowded with buses worldwide. I want to prove or disprove this hypothesis. When this project is completed, I'll initiate a report to include streets in NYC that require bus lanes, according to your 60 crossings per hour criterion. I believe you may regret your statement:=) BTW, I believe transit planners from both the MTA and NYCDOT have no idea of how busy street intersections are with scheduled bus traffic. I have a note from the MTA via NYCDOT that assures me that scheduled bus intersection crossings never exceed 100 crossings per hour. |
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