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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Nov 23 01:41:32 2022, in response to Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Nov 22 23:46:21 2022. Most of them stored at Amsterdam Depot. Last time I was at ECH only museum bus there was Command RTS CNG 4904. Grand Ave did something to 4904 and the Spring Creek mechanics couldn't figure out what was wrong with the bus so its been sitting in ECH for years now. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Nov 23 03:44:14 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Nov 23 01:41:32 2022. I’ll go around tomorrow and take down numbers |
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Posted by Allen45 on Wed Nov 23 19:07:41 2022, in response to Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Nov 22 23:46:21 2022. I did see a GM Fishbowl in the green NYCTA livery driving northbound on the Henry Hudson Parkway on a Saturday AM a couple weeks ago. I didn't know what it was, but seeing this makes me think something is going on. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Nov 23 19:36:46 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Allen45 on Wed Nov 23 19:07:41 2022. Was it moving under it's own power or being towed? |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Nov 23 19:46:49 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Nov 23 19:36:46 2022. Reason I ask because scrap buses are usually towed to ECH, if it was running under it's own power it might have been out and about for some other reason. |
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Posted by Allen45 on Wed Nov 23 19:58:10 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Nov 23 19:36:46 2022. Under its own power. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Nov 23 20:48:27 2022, in response to Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Nov 22 23:46:21 2022. Here’s the list of who’s there today, 11/23/2022 @1600 hrs10001 1059 3865 7340 2151 8466 3758 5249 100 236 5117 7144 |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Nov 24 00:25:38 2022, in response to Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Nov 22 23:46:21 2022. Hear that Amsterdam has leaking issues and the buses had to be moved (to wherever space is available).Hopefully that is the case, nothing more sinister. |
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Posted by Allen45 on Thu Nov 24 00:41:13 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Nov 24 00:25:38 2022. There’s this part of me that wouldn’t be surprised if museum buses were sold or scrapped. Especially with the push to electric vehicles and the fact that Amsterdam depot may need to be reactivated when Columbia university takes over the manhattanville depot space. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 24 01:27:40 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Nov 24 00:25:38 2022. Hopefully that’s all it is and as you said not something sinister from some brilliant brain.On a side note, today was the first time I laid eyes on a few of those buses such as 2151 and 5117. Maybe 15 years now actually. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Fri Nov 25 14:42:04 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 24 01:27:40 2022. One of the problems that the historic bus fleet has is they have no Court Street. It would be nice of there was a small unused garage that could be made into something of a museum and showroom. As it is the buses are of necessity moved to the back of the garage. They are brought out occasionly for special events. But its not the same as being able to visit them on a regular basis. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Fri Nov 25 15:16:46 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Fri Nov 25 14:42:04 2022. There was a plan talked about. It was to have a display similar to the MOBT in Hershey. It would have been in Amsterdam depot. A vintage bus or two would have traveled 'tween the depot and the 125th st IRT (1) station for visitors who didn't wish to walk there.The display would have had the buses placed amid scenes, with display pieces along the walls. The museum wanted more focus on buses, which it really doesn't do at Court Street. But that was then. R17 |
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Posted by Allen45 on Fri Nov 25 15:18:34 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by r17-6599 on Fri Nov 25 15:16:46 2022. The focus is on trains because buses are always like the side order to the main meal. That's just the order of things with transit. It's also much easier to cut buses rather than trains. |
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Posted by W.B. on Sat Nov 26 00:28:28 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Allen45 on Fri Nov 25 15:18:34 2022. Isn't this also an aftereffect of the lingering resentment towards buses that stemmed from the fallout of the elimination of streetcars? |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Sat Nov 26 01:56:16 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by W.B. on Sat Nov 26 00:28:28 2022. That's hard to say. Considering that the streetcars were eliminated so long ago and many that were around then are no longer here. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 26 12:20:55 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Fri Nov 25 14:42:04 2022. What about the former Trolley Terminal at Essex and Delancy?Re-install trolley tracks and display both Trolley's and Buses!  
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Nov 26 13:46:12 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 26 12:20:55 2022. There is no non subway ramp to get them there. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 26 15:31:12 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Nov 26 13:46:12 2022. So, could Tracks be re-installed?Could Busses and trolleys be loaded on flatbeds or towed and buses have High-rail trucks installed? Perhaps there are other options? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Nov 26 17:45:13 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 26 15:31:12 2022. No ramp is available.The sole access was covered over by the outbound inner traffic lanes by Robert Moses, when the BQE was being constructed. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 26 20:39:25 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Edwards! on Sat Nov 26 17:45:13 2022. Could they be brought in by subway tracks off Manhattan Bridge or tunnel |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Sun Nov 27 05:31:40 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 26 20:39:25 2022. How old are you? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Nov 28 06:15:25 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 26 20:39:25 2022. There is no way,traction wise,to get to the facilities.There was a additional space along the outbound Jamaica track,that was specifically made for expansion of the Essex st station with 4 tracks and three platforms. The ROW was used, however, to create the tower governing Chrystie st Connection, and the track way pretty much used for the eastbound/southbound Chrystie st connector track from Houston st. You can see the tracks way at the staircases that connects to the F line on the lower level. The Trolley terminal is cut off,unless some new construction opens it up. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Nov 28 17:19:01 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by terRAPIN station on Sun Nov 27 05:31:40 2022. Almost as old as dirt! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 30 12:56:55 2022, in response to Re: Where is the Museum Fleet?, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Nov 28 17:19:01 2022. Then you should know better. |
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