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2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by mack c-49 on Wed Sep 19 21:35:38 2018

Stopped at the 125th Street Metro North station this morning a little after 10 I was surprised to see 2969 (4789) heading east across 125th Street. The livery really stood out. Where was it going and why?

(I wish they would restore the authentic fleet number of this bus! Jackie Gleason never drove it!)

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by W.B. on Thu Sep 20 00:38:10 2018, in response to 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by mack c-49 on Wed Sep 19 21:35:38 2018.

No - the real 2969 was retired and scrapped around the time 100th Street got its allotment of A/C batwing Fishbowls in early '67.

Also - isn't this faux "2969" stationed at the Amsterdam depot?

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Sep 20 09:00:28 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by W.B. on Thu Sep 20 00:38:10 2018.

It probably is, as Amsterdam is mostly responsible for the vintage fleet.

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by mack c-49 on Thu Sep 20 16:42:23 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by W.B. on Thu Sep 20 00:38:10 2018.

If I remember correctly, 2969 was a Surface (MABSTOA) Mack from the early to middle 50s.

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by northshore on Thu Sep 20 17:44:58 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by mack c-49 on Thu Sep 20 16:42:23 2018.

The real Jackie Gleason bus 2969 was a 1950 GMC TDH-3409 New York City Omnibus on the Madison Avenue route.

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by northshore on Thu Sep 20 17:45:37 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by mack c-49 on Thu Sep 20 16:42:23 2018.

Correction: GMC TDH-4509

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by W.B. on Thu Sep 20 19:37:23 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by northshore on Thu Sep 20 17:44:58 2018.

TDH-4509, actually. Built in Nov-Dec 1950. Flagged as 'FIFTH AVENUE COACH LINES INC.' on the sides of the buses from June 1, 1956.

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by northshore on Thu Sep 20 20:01:08 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by W.B. on Thu Sep 20 19:37:23 2018.

All the publicity photos show it as New York City Omnibus Corporation

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by W.B. on Thu Sep 20 21:18:17 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by northshore on Thu Sep 20 20:01:08 2018.

The pics were taken, according to Getty Images, on Aug. 22, 1955. So it would indeed have been NYCO then. But that bus would have been rebranded as FACL a year later. And another bus from that very same group (I think 2966, running on 18 - 86th Street Crosstown) made a cameo in "BUtterfield 8" (1960).

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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 21 05:58:07 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by northshore on Thu Sep 20 17:44:58 2018.



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Re: 2969 (4789) out and about

Posted by W.B. on Fri Sep 21 08:28:04 2018, in response to Re: 2969 (4789) out and about, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Sep 21 05:58:07 2018.

Taken on the corner of 56th Street and Seventh Avenue (next to his home base of the time, the Park Sheraton Hotel), facing northeast; Carnegie Hall is in the background. 100th Street depot at the time was home to 1, 2 (the route shown here), 11, 17, 18 (this bus' usual route), 19 and 20.

Had this been taken a year later, the tag below the passenger windows, from this position, would have read "ES INC. OPERATOR."

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