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GM Old Look as a School Bus |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 16:18:17 2018 Old_Look |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 23 16:24:23 2018, in response to GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 16:18:17 2018. Exactly. Quality build. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 17:06:43 2018, in response to GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 16:18:17 2018. Actually, the one pictured is not a traditional GM Old Transit, but Hydromatc or Toro-Flow. They were built until 1968, styled like a 1948-vintage Old Look Transit, but constructed differently, and placed on a Pontiac truck chassis. Their transmissions did not hold up well in transit duties.Long Island has some, such as Huntington Coach, which I believe were in turn sold to Educational Bus on the south shore (Copiague or Lindenhurst). |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Wed May 23 17:16:10 2018, in response to GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 16:18:17 2018. Crown Coach of California also made heavy duty school buses based on their intercity coach.A Crown intercity coach:  A Crown school bus: 
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 17:21:14 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by kcram3500 on Wed May 23 17:16:10 2018. In 1979 when I visited Yellowstone Park Company had 20 MC-5C's (they still had a few in 2010 when I was there, now Xenterra) plus some Crown Intercity type buses. They sounded like MCI's.BTW, I think MC-5C's are as important and historical to that Park as the Ford Yellow cars of 1938 were. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 23 17:41:33 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by kcram3500 on Wed May 23 17:16:10 2018. That Yellow bus is very cool. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 23 19:40:15 2018, in response to GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 16:18:17 2018. Built like a tank, not like a shoe box.Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by W.B. on Wed May 23 20:28:49 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 23 19:40:15 2018. Or a milk carton. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 24 06:30:34 2018, in response to GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 16:18:17 2018. I like it! |
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Posted by mac5689 on Thu May 24 12:48:15 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 17:06:43 2018. Would they have been the 3 1960 GM TGH3102 that were said to have been sold to Coram Bus?Educational Bus is headquartered in Copiague, though in the 1960's they did contract with the Lindenhurst School District. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 24 13:31:29 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by mac5689 on Thu May 24 12:48:15 2018. That's the 3 I am thinking of. I seem to remember them sitting there when driving past on Sunrise Highway. But maybe they went to Coram. |
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Posted by andy on Thu May 24 18:27:53 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Wed May 23 17:06:43 2018. Speaking of Long Island, there was at least one school bus operator, Schenck Transportation Co., that often used GM diesel transits as school buses as well. These were typically 38 passenger TDH-3801 single door buses. Schenck had a significant transit route network in the northwestern quadrant of Nassau County and often used its GMs on double duty. Remember them well. The NCR register was still up front, minus the driver's coin holder. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu May 24 18:29:23 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Thu May 24 13:31:29 2018. Educational could have gotten one at least one when they brought Bornscheurer Bus Co, Inc since Bornscheurer had one they brought in 1954.Unless they went to Coram and then Coram resold them to Educational? I believe it was someone on here that said that they went to Coarm. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 24 18:29:41 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by andy on Thu May 24 18:27:53 2018. Their subsidiary, Nassau Bus Lines (N31 - N33), also had brackets on the bodies to hold the flashers. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 24 18:39:33 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Mac5689 on Thu May 24 18:29:23 2018. Too bad they are all gone.I don't think anyone in Huntington Coach Corp today has a clue they were ever in the local bus business and had the LIRR contract for Greenport/Montauk routes until the MTA fucked that up in 1973 with MSBA, subcontracting to Schenk, who had beaten down buses and no idea how to run the service. |
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Posted by northshore on Thu May 24 19:31:37 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Thu May 24 18:39:33 2018. When MTA took over the LIRR and L.I. private bus companies, it purchased a new fleet of GM suburban buses for LIRR Road 'M Rail service. These buses were owned and operated by MSBA |
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Posted by B53RICH on Fri May 25 17:11:20 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Thu May 24 18:29:41 2018. Is this the light in question to the right of the destination sign as seen in the photo below? I remember seeing these at the Jamaica terminus and never knew what those lights were for. MSBA #473 at Roosevelt Avenue & Main Street in Flushing. Photograph taken July 22, 1973 by Doug Grotjahn; collection of Joe Testagrose. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri May 25 17:43:26 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by northshore on Thu May 24 19:31:37 2018. Yes, but there was a year or two gap, when it was sub-contracted to Schenk Tours, their beat up GM buses, and drivers getting lost. They were also clueless as to when to call up for 2 or 3 sections of a Hamptons/Montauk schedule. HCC knew the market better from experience/When some idiot at MTA decided to restructure the service and in-source to MSBA, they forgot that MSBA had only a small charter bus fleet inherited, not sufficient to takeover the Road'n"Rail service. So Huntington Coach 's immaculate 1969 era SDM-5303's gave way to Schenk's PD's and SDM's of the early and mid-1960's. Some PD's were 35' and of limited capacity. I don't know why MTA could not have simply bought HCC's9 SDM's. HCC had to sell them to Riverdale Transit and DC Transit. The North Fork bus was ruined. While 6 trips per day became 7, they lost the popular 830am Greenport departure, and no more Greenport overnight layups of 2 buses. Then they abandoned teh service along Route 25 and 347 between Riverhead and Huntington. So they lost half their patronage. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri May 25 17:46:16 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by B53RICH on Fri May 25 17:11:20 2018. Perhaps. Is that MSBA orange paint or Schenk's red ?I only know that #173 could not have come from Bee Line. |
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Posted by northshore on Fri May 25 18:28:40 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Fri May 25 17:46:16 2018. 173 is in the last Schenck Transportation paint scheme of white/silver/red stripe. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Fri May 25 23:03:18 2018, in response to Re: GM Old Look as a School Bus, posted by Joe V on Fri May 25 17:46:16 2018. I think that bus is #473. |
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