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Holiday Buses

Posted by northshore on Sun Dec 3 10:20:04 2017

Are the Holiday Buses running on the M42?

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 3 10:49:45 2017, in response to Holiday Buses, posted by northshore on Sun Dec 3 10:20:04 2017.

Can you be more specific?

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by northshore on Sun Dec 3 11:35:39 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 3 10:49:45 2017.

I was inquiring as to the dates of operation, but upon further research I discovered on the MTA website, they will be running from Dec 5-22.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 3 14:17:05 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by northshore on Sun Dec 3 11:35:39 2017.

They will not run Saturday and Sunday.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Dec 3 19:25:56 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by northshore on Sun Dec 3 11:35:39 2017.

MTA New York City Transit will offer rides on its vintage bus fleet on the M42 route beginning Monday, December 4, to Friday, December 22. A variety of vintage buses will operate along the crosstown route between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. on weekdays, weather permitting.

Source

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by W.B. on Tue Dec 5 05:09:02 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Dec 3 19:25:56 2017.

I was on the 9098 run of the M42 yesterday, and it got me to thinking that it was ironic that, on its original run of service (1958-c.'73), it didn't ply any of the TA's then six Manhattan routes (M-1 [now M22] Madison-Chambers; M-3 [later M27, now M50] 49th-50th Crosstown; M-7 [later M29, now M66] 65th Street Crosstown; M-11 [now M31] York Avenue; M-15 First and Second Avenues; and M-13 Journal Building). Or if it did venture into Manhattan, depending on which depot it was assigned, it would have been either via B-15 over the Manhattan Bridge or B-39 over the Williamsburg Bridge.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by B53RICH on Tue Dec 5 07:20:48 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by W.B. on Tue Dec 5 05:09:02 2017.

9098 may have been assigned to Brooklyn's Crosstown depot which could have put it on the B39.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by northshore on Tue Dec 5 08:29:14 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by W.B. on Tue Dec 5 05:09:02 2017.

Williamsburg Bridge B-39 did have 9000-series buses. But they were special versions with all longitudinal seating specifically made for the B-39 shuttle service for quick boarding and exiting with plenty of standee room for the quick trip. These were the first all longitudinal seating buses for the NYCTA

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by W.B. on Tue Dec 5 14:12:12 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by B53RICH on Tue Dec 5 07:20:48 2017.

I wonder - were any of the '64 or '65 Flxibles (5117 or not) assigned to Crosstown, and thus ripe for traveling on the B39?

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by randyo on Tue Dec 5 15:29:47 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by W.B. on Tue Dec 5 05:09:02 2017.

I seem to recall riding one of them on Metropolitan Av, today’s Q54, circa 1960.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by B53RICH on Tue Dec 5 16:56:18 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by randyo on Tue Dec 5 15:29:47 2017.

I recall reading once that the the B53, today's Q54 was assigned to Crosstown (XT) before it went over to FP when that opened.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by transitbuff on Tue Dec 5 17:10:05 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by W.B. on Tue Dec 5 05:09:02 2017.

The latter....out of Crosstown Depot..

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by transitbuff on Tue Dec 5 17:11:47 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by W.B. on Tue Dec 5 14:12:12 2017.

No Flexies were in Crosstown.....and any bus deemed too wide for B-39 service operated on any of the other 6 routes in XTN

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 5 22:06:43 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by transitbuff on Tue Dec 5 17:11:47 2017.

They were all the same width.

The restriction was on 8041-8080.

When a wing got a boo boo!

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by northshore on Wed Dec 6 09:48:12 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 5 22:06:43 2017.

All NYCTA buses since 1959 are 102" wide (except for the Av B Grumman 870's it acquired). They ran/run successfully on the B39

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 6 20:49:17 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by northshore on Wed Dec 6 09:48:12 2017.

As I said, the buses that Crosstown had with the wings were not allowed on the B39 because one day one of them had to squeeze around a stalled vehicle and clipped part of the wing o the bridge structure.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by transitbuff on Thu Dec 7 17:31:11 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 6 20:49:17 2017.

ON A WING AND A PRAYER..

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by W.B. on Sat Dec 9 17:08:45 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by transitbuff on Tue Dec 5 17:11:47 2017.

Were any 1964 or '65 'Flxies' at the Fifth Avenue Depot? That depot was where two different routes that went over the Manhattan Bridge to Manhattan - B-15 and B-63 - were assigned out of.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by W.B. on Sun Dec 10 07:48:25 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by W.B. on Sat Dec 9 17:08:45 2017.

In partial answer: In another thread, it was noted that Flxies in the 5100's were at Fifth Avenue. The big question was whether any were assigned to the B-15 and/or B-63.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by Westcode44 on Sun Dec 10 10:32:50 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by W.B. on Sun Dec 10 07:48:25 2017.

I don't believe Fifth Avenue had all the FLX-5100's (5130-5159).

Those assigned did carry all Fifth Avenue Depot routes. The signs were removed from buses (1061-1099)to -Ulmer Park- and (1100-1130)to -Fresh Pond-. I vividly remember them on the B63-Fifth.

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Re: Holiday Buses

Posted by W.B. on Sun Dec 10 11:59:06 2017, in response to Re: Holiday Buses, posted by Westcode44 on Sun Dec 10 10:32:50 2017.

So that's how Manhattanites would've by and large been exposed to the '64-'65 Flxies, via the trip on B15/B63 to 'Manny B'. Too bad no pics were taken around the area, that we all know of . . .

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