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Posted by BusRider on Sun Sep 18 11:54:33 2005 What were the fleet numbers of the buses runnong through out the 70's and what were the paint scheme. Also what were the depot names. Thanks alot |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Sep 18 18:44:50 2005, in response to 1970's Fleet, posted by BusRider on Sun Sep 18 11:54:33 2005. There was:TA depots East New York Crosstown Fifth Ave (now Gleason) Fresh Pond Ulmer Park Flatbush Queens Village Flushing (now Stengel) Jamaica 126th Street Yukon Edgwater Castleton OA Depots 132 Street (Manhattanville on this site) 100 Street (new 100 street on this site) 146 Street (Hale) 54 Street Hudson Amsterdam Kingsbridge (new KB on this site) Coliseum (new WF on this site) West Farms (demolished) In the 70s TA had GMC TDH-5301 #1-190, 500-805, 1001-1130, 2001-2175 GMC TDH-5303 #3601-3950 GMC TDH-5303A #8000-8202 GMC T6H-5305A #4300-4499, 8800-8933 GMC T6H-5309A #6000-6163, 6200-6349 GMC T6H-5310A #6164-6199 Flxible FD26V-401-1 #5000-5165 Flxible FD26V-401-1 #5600-5745 Flxible 111CC-D51 #4000-4202 Flxible 53102-6-1 #7000-7204 Flxible 53102-6-1 #7500-7659 Flxible 53102-6-1 #9000-9154 Flxible 53102-8-1 #9155-9159 MABSTOA GMC TDH-5301 #3101-3220 GMC TDH-5303 #3301-3555, 5201-5525 GMC TDH-5303 #6400-6900 GMC TDH-5303A #8301-8780 GMC T6H-5310A #4500-4505 GMC T6H-5309A #4800-4919 Flxible 53102-6-1 #7300-7361 Flxible 53102-6-1 #7700-7937 Flxible 53102-8-1 #9160-9164 Flxible 53102-6-1 #9165-9309 |
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Posted by B53RICH on Sun Sep 18 22:03:21 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by WayneJay on Sun Sep 18 18:44:50 2005. Refining the list a bit:TA GMC TDH-5301 501-805 GMC TDH-5303A 8001-8202 GMC T6H-5305A 8801-8933 Flxible FD26V-401-1 5001-5165, 5601-5790 OA GMC TDH-5303 6401-6900 Also up to 1973, the TA ran the following Old Looks: GMC TDH-5106 7000-7208, 9000-9120 |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Sun Sep 18 22:11:24 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by B53RICH on Sun Sep 18 22:03:21 2005. What year did the Flxible FD26V-401 5601-5790 come out? And where were they assigned? if you please.I do remember the 5700's in Staten Island in the 70's with the 5000's and 5100's but no 5600's. |
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Posted by Bustercoastman2006 on Sun Sep 18 22:45:16 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Westcode44 on Sun Sep 18 22:11:24 2005. These Flxible New Look FD26V model Transit's that you are referring to were manufactured in 1964. The 5600's were assigned to the Castleton Depot, while the 5100's were in Brooklyn. |
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Posted by B53RICH on Sun Sep 18 22:58:26 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Bustercoastman2006 on Sun Sep 18 22:45:16 2005. The 5600's were originally assigned to ENY. I'm not sure but 5700's as well may have been at ENY. During the 70's, the 5600's - mid 5700's went to FLU (CS). QV also had 5600's. Around 1980 or so, FLU received upper 5700's (from CAS?). I remember seeing 5790 (the highest) on the Q27. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Sun Sep 18 23:57:03 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by B53RICH on Sun Sep 18 22:58:26 2005. Thanks guys, the thing I remember most vividly is the all "grey" seats. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Sep 19 10:49:30 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Westcode44 on Sun Sep 18 23:57:03 2005. I was always curious about the grey seats. Since I grew up in MaBSTOA territory our had the green seats. |
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Posted by RiverLine3501 on Mon Sep 19 11:38:08 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by B53RICH on Sun Sep 18 22:58:26 2005. I remember back in '69, there were some 5700's out of Jamaica, since I remember seeing them on the Merrick Blvd Routes [4, 4a, 5, 5a]. The 5600's were Brooklyn buses since they were seen on the B22, 53, and 56 on Jamaica Ave. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Mon Sep 19 12:43:10 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by RiverLine3501 on Mon Sep 19 11:38:08 2005. So that pretty much confirms the 5600's were based out of East New York and the 5700's were based out of Flushing and Jamaica.5000's Flatbush 5100's Fifth Avenue |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Sep 19 12:56:06 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Westcode44 on Mon Sep 19 12:43:10 2005. Strange, I never remember seeing any 5600s, and I always lived near ENY routes (first the B10, later the B47) back in the 60s and 70s. Only early Flxibles I ever saw were on the B44 (and sometimes B41 and B49) out of Flatbush. They were never my favorite buses, so I didn't care that much. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 19 18:13:42 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by RiverLine3501 on Mon Sep 19 11:38:08 2005. I think I recall 5700's on the BX12, presumably KB depot was their home. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Sep 19 18:31:41 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 19 18:13:42 2005. I think I recall 5700's on the BX12, presumably KB depot was their home.I grew up in the Bronx and I'm was pretty certain that the 5000 series never operated in the Bronx (or any OA depots). However, I do remember seeing the 5600/5700 series quite often on the Q44. The Bx12 used to operate out of Colisuem depot which did have '70 Flxible 111C-D51 #4664-4720 in the late 70s. I think earlier COL actually had all of the 4700 series Flxibles. |
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Posted by B53RICH on Mon Sep 19 18:48:50 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by RiverLine3501 on Mon Sep 19 11:38:08 2005. "The 5600's were Brooklyn buses since they were seen on the B22, 53, and 56 on Jamaica Ave".The B53/Q54 was always FP going back to the early 60's which didn't have the 5600's. Just the B22 and B56 had them. I think when ENY and FP received the 4100's during late 1969, the 5600's left ENY depot for the Queens depots. I remember seeing a 5600 on the B56 and thinking that the first two digits were the same as the route number. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Mon Sep 19 21:37:12 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by WayneJay on Sun Sep 18 18:44:50 2005. I remember bus #4044 (fifth av) was in a head on collision in the 70's with a truck and when put back together had 5000 series (flx) headlight housings.... |
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Posted by fishbowls4ever on Mon Sep 19 21:53:10 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Westcode44 on Mon Sep 19 21:37:12 2005. YES, there is a picture of that bus 4044 with the 5000 series front on it. I thought it was odd when i saw it but anything is possible. Here is the picture ENJOY!!!!!!!!!http://www.bustalk.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=76&pos=29 |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Mon Sep 19 23:05:10 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by fishbowls4ever on Mon Sep 19 21:53:10 2005. Yeah that picture is very familiar...subway web news? a lot of these pictures were contributed to this sight (webnews) by myself and several others. Thanks for the link, nice pictures keep it going..! |
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Posted by Sid from NJ on Tue Sep 20 16:34:04 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Westcode44 on Mon Sep 19 12:43:10 2005. [So that pretty much confirms the 5600's were based out of East New York and the 5700's were based out of Flushing and Jamaica.5000's Flatbush 5100's Fifth Avenue] The 5700's were all originally assigned to Jamaica. 5001-5165 were all originally assigned to Flatbush. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 20 17:51:19 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by WayneJay on Mon Sep 19 18:31:41 2005. You're right. It was 4700's I saw on the BX12, not 5700's. I remember the a/c, not that it was all that dependable. |
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Posted by vengence on Tue Sep 20 19:10:13 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Sep 19 12:56:06 2005. We had them out of Fresh Pond..Does anyone know the numbers? |
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Posted by B53RICH on Tue Sep 20 21:57:13 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by vengence on Tue Sep 20 19:10:13 2005. Fresh Pond had originally 4100-4152. The only 5000 series Flxibles that I have seen from FP were 5066, 5074, 5076, 5079. There may have been a few more. Note that these ran in FP service during the early 80's just before they were retired. |
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Posted by Bustercoastman2006 on Tue Sep 20 22:17:38 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by B53RICH on Tue Sep 20 21:57:13 2005. Exactly what was the last year when the Castleton Bus Depot on Staten Island had the 1963 GMC 5303 model Fishbowl NYCTA buses in the3601- 3625 fleet series during the 1970's? |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Sep 21 00:44:47 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 20 17:51:19 2005. I remember them upper 4600s and 4700s in green and silver on the BX 25 in front of the KB Armory waiting for departure. I loved those BIG rear windows, even though I overall hated Flxibles. I always thought of them as cheap imitations of GM New Looks. When they got the 7700s and 9000s to replace them with the small oval rear windows I only admired the working AC. Some of the 4000s got repainted in two tone blue while in Coliseum. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 21 09:22:09 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Sep 21 00:44:47 2005. Actually all of the 4600/4700 were eventually painted in the two-tone blue colors. In fact the only OA buses to remain in the original green paint scheme were some of the older GMC 5303 (3301-3555, 5201-5525). All newer OA 5303 (6401-6900, 8301-8780) and Flxible 111C-D51 (4600-4727) were eventually painted two-tone blue and of course the latter GMC (5309A/10A) and Flxibles (7300-7361, 7700-7937 and 9160-9309) were delviered in the two-tone blue colors. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Wed Sep 21 10:34:04 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 21 09:22:09 2005. Some of those Flxible 4600,4700's even made it to the blue and white livery....before saying goodbye. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 21 10:44:38 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Westcode44 on Wed Sep 21 10:34:04 2005. Some of those Flxible 4600,4700's even made it to the blue and white livery....before saying goodbye.Yeah, you're correct. I think MABSTOA was much bigger on painting buses than NYCTA. I say this because, but the late 70s you really could few (if any) green OA buses whereas TA had plenty of them. Then in the 80s nearly all of the new look buses had been painted in the blue/white colors. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 21 10:46:12 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 21 10:44:38 2005. Yeah, you're correct. I think MABSTOA was much bigger on painting buses than NYCTA. I say this because, by the late 70s you really could see few (if any) green OA buses whereas TA had plenty of them. Then in the 80s nearly all of the new-look buses had been painted in the blue/white colors. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Wed Sep 21 10:49:06 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 21 10:44:38 2005. It's amazing to see this color (blue and white) schme is here to stay including the newly acquired private bus lines. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 21 15:05:39 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by Westcode44 on Wed Sep 21 10:49:06 2005. It's amazing to see this color (blue and white) schme is here to stay including the newly acquired private bus lines.Yeah you may be right. We know the blue/white came along in the late 70s with a minor change with the first TA RTS order and it's pretty much been the same since. The only thing to change since '81 was the MTA logo, elimination of MABSTOA decals and the eventual change from NYCTA decals to MTA NYCT decals. |
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Posted by Tea Biscuit 18th Avenue Dude on Wed Sep 21 15:16:58 2005, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by WayneJay on Wed Sep 21 15:05:39 2005. And the elimination of the "PA" (that the PANYNJ bought these buses that had this) prefix with the corresponding label above it after the MTA logo changed in 1993/1994. |
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Posted by W.B. on Tue Jan 10 17:17:09 2017, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by B53RICH on Sun Sep 18 22:58:26 2005. I've wondered if, at any time, any of the Flxible buses from the 1964 set (5001-5165) and 1966 order (5601-5790) were assigned to the 126th Street depot and saw any service on NYCTA's five Manhattan routes . . . someone remembers seeing at least one bus from either of these orders running at one time on the First/Second Avenue M15 . . . |
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Posted by B53RICH on Tue Jan 10 20:13:39 2017, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by W.B. on Tue Jan 10 17:17:09 2017. 126 Street always had a mixed bag of older buses. I think one time I did see a 5000 series Flxible on the M15, possibly a 1964 unit. |
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Posted by W.B. on Wed Jan 11 00:51:41 2017, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by B53RICH on Tue Jan 10 20:13:39 2017. The 5000 series was from 1964, so . . . |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Wed Jan 11 05:43:46 2017, in response to Re: 1970's Fleet, posted by WayneJay on Sun Sep 18 18:44:50 2005. MABSTOA also had Flxible (don't know the series #) 4600-4727. |
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