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Posted by gold_12th on Fri Dec 2 14:41:05 2016 at the S.I. ferry terminalhttp://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-steals-mta-bus-staten-island-ferry-terminal-article-1.2896301 |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 2 19:35:13 2016, in response to Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by gold_12th on Fri Dec 2 14:41:05 2016. Another face joins Darius in facilities to be careful of. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 3 19:28:34 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 2 19:35:13 2016. Buses should have keyless ignitions with an immobilizer. So it can run and be idle while the driver is not in it, but it someone tries to put it in gear and the key is not there, bus shuts off. My non-luxury american car can do it, surely a bus worth a quarter million $ can have such a feature... |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 4 10:47:34 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 3 19:28:34 2016. Maybe they don't want to deal with who has the key at the depot... |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Dec 4 11:15:19 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 3 19:28:34 2016. It is both against the law and against MTA policy for sitting buses to idle in most situations. Obviously, this policy is not enforced. That being said, it is pretty hard to justify including in a purchase contract a feature that by its very nature encourages violating both the law and agency policy. |
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Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Dec 4 18:19:18 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by pragmatist on Sun Dec 4 11:15:19 2016. I believe that the idling rule is waived during periods of extremely cold weather so the ability needs to be there even if not used all the time. |
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Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Dec 4 18:20:22 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 4 10:47:34 2016. There could be a standard key for all MTA buses similar to the crew keys and handles for subway trains. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 4 19:34:30 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by randyo on Sun Dec 4 18:20:22 2016. But then you get ahold of one key and you could steal any bus you want. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 4 19:55:06 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 4 10:47:34 2016. How is this any different from current practice? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 4 22:31:17 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 4 19:55:06 2016. I assume there's no key now? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Dec 4 23:10:06 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by randyo on Sun Dec 4 18:19:18 2016. NYS law is 2 hrs @25 degrees ambient temp for diesel trucks but common sense says the same problem exists for buses. (laws don't always reflect common sense) This is especially common overnight at a depot. Leaving a vehicle running unattended and/or unguarded doesn't cut it though. Agency policies and local law may be different, I'm not sure if the tighter NYC rule has the weather provision. Like I said earlier, theses rules are not widely enforced at any time. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 5 13:56:06 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 4 19:34:30 2016. Still better than no keys at all. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Dec 5 20:13:11 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 5 13:56:06 2016. Why? |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Dec 6 17:41:37 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Dec 5 20:13:11 2016. At least with a dedicated key that only an employee should be able to have the possibility of unauthorized operation would be limited to a certain degree. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun Dec 11 13:02:03 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by randyo on Tue Dec 6 17:41:37 2016. How about issuing each bus operator an electronic key that would work with any bus? If it was lost or stolen It could be deactivated. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Dec 11 21:03:25 2016, in response to Re: Staten Island man steals a MTA bus AGAIN, posted by merrick1 on Sun Dec 11 13:02:03 2016. Just one of many possibilities. |
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