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MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by Transportation Hub on Thu Oct 20 08:32:18 2016 New York City's first Select Bus Service route, the Fordham Road-Pelham Parkway Bx12 SBS launched on June 29, 2008. The Bx12 SBS replaced the Bx12 Limited service from the Inwood neighborhood in Manhattan to Co-Op City in the Bronx, offering transfer opportunities to the 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, A, B and D subway lines and Metro-North Commuter Railroad lines as it traveled east-west through the borough, serving over 46,000 customers daily. This is a part of the project to promote the upcoming M23 Crosstown +SBS route. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 20 12:30:22 2016, in response to MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Transportation Hub on Thu Oct 20 08:32:18 2016. Bx12 SBS launched on June 29, 2008Yes, IIRC, I, and a few others from here, were on the first bus. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Oct 20 12:53:17 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 20 12:30:22 2016. I can vouch that I am the very first SBS+ customer at Edson Ave.I am trying to locate those two videos - - the first one with the Spanish woman was beyond funny. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Oct 22 10:16:57 2016, in response to MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Transportation Hub on Thu Oct 20 08:32:18 2016. A familiar scene, I'm a regular rider of the Bx12 SBS. A few questions:1) You label the video with the name Manhattan & Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority. Certainly, all the Bronx (Bx) buses, except the 55 when it ran, were considered MaBSTOA lines, and used to be labeled as such, though they no longer are. Does the designation of certain lines as MaBSTOA, as distinguished from NYCTA, still exist internally? Or does MaBSTOA exist only as a way of hiring and paying drivers apart from the civil-service system, with MaBSTOA and NYCTA drivers mixed on the same lines? 2) The Select Bus program has been a huge success, certainly on the Bx12. The SBS buses are usually standing-room only, while the local Bx12 usually has seats, even though it runs less often. The number of stops the local bus makes isn't that much greater, either. In fact, west of the Concourse, the SBS and the late night local buses make the same number of stops, although some in slightly different spots. My real question is about one of those stops, Cedar Ave., which is a narrow street. It's the last stop in the Bronx, and is the transfer point for the Metro North Hudson line. But I'm wondering why the stop couldn't have been closer to the RR, right on the overpass above the Deegan. Would bus shelters and fare machines really have put too much weight on the overpass? |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 22 10:36:50 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Oct 22 10:16:57 2016. MABSTOA still exists. It is still a public agency in the State of New York. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by Joe on Sat Oct 22 11:37:20 2016, in response to MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Transportation Hub on Thu Oct 20 08:32:18 2016. When the SBS began, there was a promise of signal priority of some sort. Does any traffic signal anywhere on the route react to the approach of an SBS bus?--- Long ago, on North First Street in San Jose, I observed that the light rail cars caused the traffic lights to flip green for approaching trains except if a pedestrian was in the process of crossing on a walk signal. Yet, during the first year of Bx12 SBS one of the statements I read was that the "signal priority" would not cause the signal to flip early but rather would delay it from turning red as a bus approached. --- Is there any sort of signal priority (advanced or delayed) on Bx12 SBS? Thanks. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Oct 22 12:11:00 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Joe on Sat Oct 22 11:37:20 2016. How do the San Jose signals know if there is a pedestrian in the crosswalk? |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 22 15:41:24 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 22 10:36:50 2016. Although MABSTOA is a separate agency and a subsidiary of NYCTA, the schedules that ere distributed by NYCTA’s operations planning department all carried the letterhead New York City Transit Authority whether they were TA or OA routes. A few contracts ago, the agreement between NYCTA and TWU was that MABSTOA was to have been eliminated and all MABSTOA employees would become NYCTA employees. For whatever reason, that never happened. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 22 15:44:22 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Oct 22 12:11:00 2016. I’m not sure, but there may be some sort of a sensor that can detect the presence of a pedestrian, or it may be that the traffic signal has some sort of a push button to change the signal for the pedestrian which would indicate to the signal system that a pedestrian was crossing. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by Joe on Sat Oct 22 22:39:39 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Oct 22 12:11:00 2016. In San Jose, the pedestrian pushed the button requesting permission to cross. I did that myself to reach the southbound loading platform, and, sure enough, during the number of seconds I was allowed to cross the street and tracks in the median, all rail and street traffic on North First Street had to stop. Absent a pedestrian pushing the button, the system would flip green for approaching streetcars.--- In Nassau County, NY, with 6-lane Sunrise Hwy, a pedestrian is given about 40 seconds to cross safely, presumably because the system allows for slower elders. The NY 27 traffic is held for the pedestrian. If no pedestrian pushes the walk button, a car tripping the loop will get about 25 seconds. --- Before 6 a.m. the buttons work instantly. During normal traffic hours, it seems the system waits for a break in NY 27 flow before throwing them a red signal. In times of crush traffic, the wait to get a signal allowing crossing the highway is about 130 seconds. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sat Oct 22 23:20:31 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Oct 22 10:16:57 2016. I'd like to ride the Bx12 SBS with you sometime. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sat Oct 22 23:21:28 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by randyo on Sat Oct 22 15:44:22 2016. Probably the latter. |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 24 09:34:07 2016, in response to MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by Transportation Hub on Thu Oct 20 08:32:18 2016. Very nice! |
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Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd |
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Posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 24 18:20:21 2016, in response to Re: MaBSTOA Bus: Bx12 Local & +SelectBusService Compilation @ Pelham Pkwy & Williamsbridge Rd, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 24 09:34:07 2016. You're welcome. I have a whole video montage of NYC's Bus Rapid Transit, coming this Friday. |
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