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Re: Remeber when?

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 14 01:47:05 2016, in response to Remeber when?, posted by fishbowls4ever on Tue Oct 11 20:16:12 2016.

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Yup..with the same jack asses arguing a moot point.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 14 01:53:00 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Cornell Park on Thu Oct 13 14:08:26 2016.

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And WHY pray tell,would you subject yourself to Such indigenous tendencies?

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 14 01:54:58 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Cornell Park on Thu Oct 13 14:47:42 2016.

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Hey..You called it!
And while it Was somewhat abrasive, it Was honest.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Caine515 on Fri Oct 14 07:03:42 2016, in response to [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 13 13:12:11 2016.

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I didn't realize the flixible at Green line lasted through 1985

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Oct 14 07:49:14 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 13 19:55:46 2016.

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System: MABSTOA...Location: Boston Rd. & Bronx River Parkway... Route: BX42...Bus: 6523... Photo by: Steve Zabel...Collection of: Joe Testagrose...Date: 2/12/1975...from nycsubway.org

System: MABSTOA...Location: Park Ave. & 35 St... Route: M1...Bus: 5Photo by: Doug Grotjahn...Collection of: Joe Testagrose...Date: 6/29/1979...from nycsubway.org

System: New York City Transit... Location: Adams St. & Willoughby St... Route: B38...Bus: 1103... Photo by: Joe Testagrose...Date: 5/5/1972...from nycsubway.org

System: New York City Transit... Location: Broadway & Roebling Route: Rt B47...Bus: 5657... Photo by: Joe Testagrose...Date: 3/27/1971...from nycsubway.org

System: New York City Transit... Location: Bay St. & Victory...Route: S 103...Bus: 6835... Photo by: Alan Bromberger Collection of: Joe Testagrose...Date: 1/18/1981...Notes: WMATA 6835 AS TA 1896...from nycsubway.org

System: New York City Transit... Location: Jay St. & Myrtle Ave...Route: Rt B54...Bus: 7014... Photo by: Joe Testagrose...Date: 3/30/1972...from nycsubway.org

System: Fifth Avenue Coach...Bus: 3200... Collection of: Joe Testagrose...Date: 9/14/1956...Notes: 35th ave & 69th st...from nycsubway.org

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Oct 14 09:39:42 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 14 01:53:00 2016.

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It could have been worded better, however i was still F.U.B.A.R. compliments of anesthesia. I owned up to it and said sorry. It should have been a finger poke, not a hit to the head. I think you get what I mean.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Oct 14 10:12:08 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Caine515 on Fri Oct 14 07:03:42 2016.

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I didn't realize the flixible at Green line lasted through 1985

Green Lines received even more Flxibles second hand from CDTA in 1984-85, and then leased a few more from Triboro in 1994.

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 14 13:52:05 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Oct 14 07:49:14 2016.

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5 drooling stars,........

Tremendous.

Once again, thanks!

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by fishbowls4ever on Fri Oct 14 14:46:45 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Oct 14 07:49:14 2016.

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Thank you


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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 14 17:34:39 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Oct 14 07:49:14 2016.

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1103 and 7014, I remember those at Fresh Pond. Flx 7000 made its way there as well with an ad rack on the AC grill.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 14 17:44:19 2016, in response to [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 13 13:12:11 2016.

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Many changes since then.



NYCTA #3667 working route B53 at Metropolitan & Jamaica Avenues. Photograph taken March 19, 1972 by Doug Grotjahn; collection of Joe Testagrose.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Oct 14 19:05:19 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 14 17:44:19 2016.

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Nice !

When buses were...........buses. :)

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Oct 14 19:06:22 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 14 13:52:05 2016.

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Thanks !

Sweet memories.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 14 21:47:45 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 14 17:44:19 2016.

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Yes!

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Oct 15 07:38:04 2016, in response to [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 13 13:12:11 2016.

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The Green Lines 206 was a favorite of mine. Distinctly remember riding it on the Q35. 203 is the other one I remember. I do t recall seeing them after around 1986. And they must have been scrapped by 1990.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Tiny Tim on Sat Oct 15 12:35:01 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Oct 15 07:38:04 2016.

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One of the Flxibles from green lines was bought by pintos driving school on linden Blvd. It was parked on a side st near commands yard. This was late 80s early 90s. All they did was take greens name off a Nd left it in greens colors and it still had greens number low 200s is all I recall.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by bigbusdriver on Sat Oct 15 21:43:15 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 14 17:44:19 2016.

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Loved them GM's. And notice: no right side mirror.


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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 15 22:37:54 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Oct 14 13:52:05 2016.

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Outstanding!

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 15 22:38:50 2016, in response to [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 13 13:12:11 2016.

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Great pictures!

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Re: Remeber when?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 15 22:39:02 2016, in response to Re: Remeber when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 12 08:30:22 2016.

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Nice!

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Re: Remeber when?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 15 22:39:15 2016, in response to Re: Remeber when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Oct 12 08:30:22 2016.

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Nice!

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 15 22:40:09 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Oct 14 19:05:19 2016.

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I agree!

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Re: Remeber when?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 15 22:44:33 2016, in response to Re: Remeber when?, posted by CJ on Thu Oct 13 04:49:26 2016.

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That comes with the railfan territory. The Asperger Army!

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 16 00:09:51 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by bigbusdriver on Sat Oct 15 21:43:15 2016.

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I remember when there was a big deal made by one bus operator (I believe in Staten Island) over the lack of a right hand side mirror and it did result in the TA installing them even though as I recall, Queens Transit and some of the other privates had them.

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Re: Remeber when?

Posted by merrick1 on Sun Oct 16 09:27:02 2016, in response to Re: Remeber when?, posted by CJ on Thu Oct 13 04:49:26 2016.

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I think Brooklyn Bus is the problem here. The Turtle has been posting here for years and we didn't have two month flame wars. Bus actually copied and pasted from the reef in order revive a reefed thread. He won't let anything go.

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Re: Remeber when?

Posted by fishbowls4ever on Sun Oct 16 20:35:38 2016, in response to Re: Remeber when?, posted by merrick1 on Sun Oct 16 09:27:02 2016.

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I know its hard, but we as a group involved in a hobby we enjoy must unite and not get pulled in to the he said she said garbage. Just ignore those who try to start fights and make nasty comments. I know its hard but I am willing to do my part and to enjoy this site.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Oct 17 09:28:03 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Oct 14 10:12:08 2016.

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One of those was on fountain ave a while back. What I mean is that I don't recall them on the 35 or 22 in the later half of the 80's.
What model did they lease from triboro in 94?

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 18 23:24:05 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Oct 17 09:28:03 2016.

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One of those was on fountain ave a while back.

That was Command 193 (ex-CDTA 407). Never went to Green.

What model did they lease from triboro in 94?

1970 111DD-D5, ex-CDTA

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 18 23:59:27 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 18 23:24:05 2016.

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What about 235-1?
In 1994 Green received a 1970 Flxible?

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 19 09:00:15 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 18 23:59:27 2016.

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What about 235-1?

That was a GM (1967 TDH5304)

In 1994 Green received a 1970 Flxible?

Five, leased from Triboro. #823, 825, 827, 828, 829.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 19 09:44:45 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 19 09:00:15 2016.

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Where did they run them?

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 19 12:00:49 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 19 09:44:45 2016.

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Where did they run them?

No idea.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 19 14:15:56 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 19 12:00:49 2016.

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I wonder why they would have wanted them. Or needed them.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 19 14:48:43 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 19 14:15:56 2016.

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I wonder why they would have wanted them. Or needed them.

Equipment shortage before the TMCs arrived.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 19 15:05:31 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 19 14:48:43 2016.

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I figured as much but I thought they started coming in 1993.
There were very few new looks around for Green by 94 as I'm sure you know. There were some real crappy ex Jamaica buses from 1976. I couldn't stand them. The only new looks I never liked.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 19 15:09:25 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 19 14:48:43 2016.

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Those 1970 Flxibles doubtfully made it to the Rockaways.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Cornell Park on Wed Oct 19 15:54:44 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 19 15:05:31 2016.

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QSC received TMC's in 1993.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 21 15:46:37 2016, in response to [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Oct 13 13:12:11 2016.

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Until about when did Triboro have Flxs like 851 pictured above?

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 22 08:33:39 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 21 15:46:37 2016.

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Until about when did Triboro have Flxs like 851 pictured above?

Sorry, don't know when.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by HART BUS on Sat Oct 22 14:34:06 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 22 08:33:39 2016.

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Talk about the devil!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triboro-Coach-NY-original-bus-slide-849-taken-1976-/332004199225?hash=item4d4cfe0b39:g:NtkAAOSwCGVYA-BO

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 3 21:35:03 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 18 23:24:05 2016.

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I got my hands on the Motor Coach Age from 2000 with the Green Lines story. I saw the Flxibles listed but I have to see pics of these things in service to believe it.

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Westcode44 on Thu Nov 3 21:57:41 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by B53RICH on Fri Oct 14 17:34:39 2016.

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BUS ADS FIT.!

WE-44

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Nov 3 22:31:48 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Westcode44 on Thu Nov 3 21:57:41 2016.

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Oh yes! Looks like those signs were only on those '73, '75 and '77 Flxibles at Manhattan depots.

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 3 23:32:29 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by WayneJay on Thu Nov 3 22:31:48 2016.

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I've seen a couple pics of that. How did the a/c work with an ad in front of it?

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 4 06:10:55 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Cornell Park on Wed Oct 19 15:54:44 2016.

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You sure?
I remember getting on one in 1985 at LGA freash out of the Navy.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Nov 4 08:13:15 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 4 06:10:55 2016.

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Fresh? I bet you STANK like a Job Johnnie.

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Nov 4 08:57:22 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 3 23:32:29 2016.

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Probably because the ad rack was mounted in such a way that there were a few inches between it and the A/C unit/condenser. Still makes me think it could affect the A/C, but that may have not been much of an issue because in those days the TA weren't really maintaining the A/C on buses that were equipped. By the late 70s, it was rare to find a TA/OA new look bus with working A/C. Even when the TA did start maintaining A/C consistently... It was in the 80s when the ADBs came along with their climate controlled systems. Even at that point they still weren't paying to much attention to new look A/C other than those on Express routes and of course the Blitz buses once they rec'd their A/C retrofits.

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Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Nov 4 09:25:23 2016, in response to Re: [MORE-MORE-MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 4 06:10:55 2016.

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You sure?

Yep I am sure.

I remember getting on one in 1985 at LGA freash out of the Navy.

Transportation Manufacturing Corporation bought the RTS design from General Motors Corporation in 1987.

Was it a 1979 GMC RTS II T8H-203 owned by the Port Authority and operated by Hudson General, or a 1981-1985 GMC RTS II T8H-204 run by NYCTA, or was it a PBL equivalent of both of these models? Inquiring minds wish to know.


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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Nov 4 13:00:59 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by WayneJay on Fri Nov 4 08:57:22 2016.

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I figured as much.
Why did they order them with a/c in the first place? It seems like such a colossal waste to order so many of them and not have them work.

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Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Nov 4 13:48:41 2016, in response to Re: [EVEN MORE] Was: Remember when?, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Nov 4 13:00:59 2016.

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Well. Starting with the '66 GMC 5303 (8001-8202, 8301-8780) order all further bus purchases for MTA (NYCTA, MABSTOA & MSBA) were A/C equipped which was a good idea, in my opinion. The real problem is the deferred maintenance era of the 70s. A/C was clearly not a priority, and generally you didn't find it working too often, especially on most older buses. I always thought the TA did a bit better with the subway car fleet in terms of functioning A/C, but they suffered as well.

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