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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jul 24 12:55:21 2016, in response to Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 23:20:06 2016. Thanks! I guess that intersection is different but IIRC the QM11 and the Q46 routinely make U-turns as part of their operation on Queens Blvd and there are no (non-jaywalking) pedestrian conflicts. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by Dan on Sun Jul 24 14:13:00 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jul 24 12:55:21 2016. Years ago the B7 used to make a U-turn like that on Kings Highway at Ryder Street. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 24 15:46:47 2016, in response to Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 23:20:06 2016. " Change requested by NYPD to avoid U-Turn at 63rd Rd./Queens Blvd. which causes pedestrian conflicts."Is it possible Vision Zero laws are making this happen? |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 24 17:12:29 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Dan on Sun Jul 24 14:13:00 2016. I believe, the B5 coming from the opposite direction did the same thing. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by Dan on Sun Jul 24 18:27:27 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 24 17:12:29 2016. Think so. The B31 still does the same at the southern end of Gerritsen Avenue but that's a pretty empty spot traffic wise. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sun Jul 24 20:09:11 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 24 15:46:47 2016. Actually yes. Since the reconstruction which has been going on since the spring, DOT has been trying to make improvements at that intersection as part of Vision Zero. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Jul 24 22:44:48 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by B49 Limited on Sun Jul 24 20:09:11 2016. Reconstruction???? A section of Queens Blvd (including the intersection with 63 Rd) was repaved. There is no other reconstruction happening there.The U-turn that the Q59 makes is done from the left-turn bay during the left-turn green light when all pedestrian signals show "Don't Walk". The only conflict could occur if the bus starts its turn at the tail-end of the green-light cycle and by the time it finishes, the pedestrian signal has changed to "Walk". That new terminal on 62 Rd will be a long block (uphill) from the main shopping area and subway entrance. An alternative would be to have the Q59 turn left onto 63 Rd and terminate at the existing Q38 stop just past the gas station. Then, starting the route, turn left onto 97 St, left onto 62 Rd, with a new stop at Junction Blvd for the mall shoppers, then right onto Queens Blvd and regular thereafter. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 24 22:56:16 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by gbs on Sun Jul 24 22:44:48 2016. I don't think they would the Q59 layover at the Q38 stop because the Q38 would not be able to pull into the shared bus stop with a Q59 laying over.Should there be a wheelchair getting on or off the Q38 it would be problematical. Not a good idea to use the middle of the street. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jul 24 23:34:30 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 24 22:56:16 2016. What about just making it like a Q72? Left onto 63rd, then right onto 97th, then right onto 63rd Dr. It can lay over at the pointless bus shelter, then make the turn onto Queens Blvd and pick up at it's current stop. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 24 23:37:17 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jul 24 23:34:30 2016. Very true but all I can say is NYCT already made the decision! |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jul 24 23:53:37 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 24 23:37:17 2016. *sigh* my way would have made it so that not a single bus stop sign needed to be changed, and not a single (boarding) passenger would have to do anything different. Ah well... |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jul 25 10:42:06 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Dan on Sun Jul 24 18:27:27 2016. Also, not a typical U-turn in my opinion, the bus really just follows the road, which just naturally changes direction.I remember years back seeing school buses deliberately going south of Gerritsen even when they wanted to go north, just for the easy turnaround. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jul 25 10:46:35 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by Dan on Sun Jul 24 14:13:00 2016. I would think the nighttime B7 that ends at Flatbush still does the same thing. It doesn't go around the block as far as I know.The B9s that end at Flatbush I believe go around the triangle east of Flatbush using Kings Hwy to come back. The Bx9 currently makes a U-turn right in the middle of the road at its northern end. I'd say the most dramatic was the B5 and B7 turnarounds during the daytime on Kings Hwy. |
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Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016 |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jul 25 11:27:08 2016, in response to Re: Q59 Route Change September, 2016, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jul 25 10:46:35 2016. Yes the B 7 still uses Ryder to make its uturn in fact there is a DOT sign that allows for buses only to make turns on the street. I notice they make their turns when Kings Hwy traffic signal is red |
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