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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon May 9 17:29:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Mon May 9 16:14:34 2016. Straw men are people too! Straw men lives matter! |
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Posted by merrick1 on Mon May 9 21:41:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun May 8 23:55:43 2016. It's just a slogan. No one expects zero to be a reachable goal. My dad worked for a company that had a "Zero Defects" campaign. The agency I work for has an "Office of Continuous Improvement." Most people joke about these campaigns. They're nothing to get worked up about. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 9 22:58:42 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by merrick1 on Mon May 9 21:41:44 2016. They're nothing to get worked up about except when they negatively impact people's lives. Goals should be reachable. When they aren't, they are a joke. But according to de Blasio it is a reachable goal in ten years. Notice his term is only eight years if reelected, so when it hasn't been reached in ten years, he can always say the next mayor messed up and he was on track to making it a reality. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue May 10 02:22:14 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 9 14:05:53 2016. Yeah! The M60 is quickly becoming so overcrowded that ridership must be dropping like a stone. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue May 10 08:17:45 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Tue May 10 02:22:14 2016. lol |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 10 10:10:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Tue May 10 02:22:14 2016. Nobody rides it anymore. It's too crowded. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue May 10 11:06:10 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 9 22:58:42 2016. They're nothing to get worked up about except when they negatively impact people's lives.Yeah, those extra two minutes you occasionally have to spend in traffic on Woodhaven Boulevard...outrageous! Goals should be reachable. When they aren't, they are a joke. The better question is: Why isn't this goal reachable? Why do we accept traffic fatalities and injuries as a fact of life? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:04:15 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon May 9 00:49:57 2016. Still an insult. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:05:15 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon May 9 00:52:23 2016. Yeah, nine years is no experience. It's more experience than a mailroom worker has had. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:09:16 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Tue May 10 11:06:10 2016. Two extra minutes in traffic on Woodhaven? Guess you haven't checked out DOT's latest report on the results from their newly installed bus lanes north of Metropolitan. It shows average traffic speeds dropped from 19.5 to 12 mph during the AM peak northbound, a 38 percent decrease. It shows that bus speeds also declined slightly since the lanes were installed.You actually believe that zero pedestrian injuries is reachable with cars traveling faster than 5 mph? Or do you consider that an appropriate speed? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:10:49 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon May 9 14:23:27 2016. So if done of the decline was due to the Q70, what caused the rest of the decline? Could it be increased fare evasion? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:12:03 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Tue May 10 02:22:14 2016. Ridership is dropping and the buses are overcrowded. Nothing inconsistent about those statements. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat May 14 19:35:43 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:12:03 2016. Actually there is, as capacity has remained consistent. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat May 14 19:37:46 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:10:49 2016. Most likely the increase in service on the Q19 I suspect. (Although I would be very surprised if most was not directly the Q70.) |
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Posted by R30A on Sat May 14 20:32:59 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:09:16 2016. "Two extra minutes in traffic on Woodhaven? Guess you haven't checked out DOT's latest report on the results from their newly installed bus lanes north of Metropolitan. It shows average traffic speeds dropped from 19.5 to 12 mph during the AM peak northbound, a 38 percent decrease. It shows that bus speeds also declined slightly since the lanes were installed."Really? I see nothing on their website which states any of those figures. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 14 22:42:09 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:04:15 2016. Not if it's true. You're wrong. And not very bright. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 14 22:43:52 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:05:15 2016. Yeah, nine years is no experience.You only had 6 months, if even THAT part is true! It's more experience than a mailroom worker has had.WRONG! LIAR!!!! I have 13+ years of experience you motherf*cker!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 14 22:53:21 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 14 17:10:49 2016. You tell me. YOU'RE the supposed expert. LOL!!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 14 22:54:38 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sat May 14 19:35:43 2016. owned!!!!! omg owned!!!!!! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 16 13:46:27 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sat May 14 19:35:43 2016. If ridership is dropping and capacity has remained constant, then service must have been reduced. Right? The only other explanation is that paid ridership is dropping, not actual ridership. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon May 16 14:21:47 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 16 13:46:27 2016. If ridership is dropping and capacity has remained constant, then service must have been reduced. Right?Huh? Service is capacity. If you reduce service, then capacity has to be reduced. If NYCT sees a ridership drop, then they can respond by reducing service/capacity so that service matches the loading guidelines. |
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Posted by HART BUS on Mon May 16 15:57:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon May 16 14:21:47 2016. Very well said. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon May 16 17:09:51 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 16 13:46:27 2016. You obviously do not understand what the term "Capacity" means. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 17 08:34:02 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Tue May 10 02:22:14 2016. Where is Yogi Berra when you need him? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 17 15:26:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon May 16 14:21:47 2016. You are not saying anything different than what I said.I asked you a question if service was reduced for capacity to remain the same with fewer passengers. So am I to assume from your response that service was reduced since you stated capacity remained the same with lower ridership? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 17 15:27:05 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Mon May 16 17:09:51 2016. And how do you conclude that? |
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Posted by fdtutf on Wed May 18 11:09:01 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 17 15:27:05 2016. I can't speak for R30A, but I conclude it by knowing English, knowing a bit about transportation planning and transit operations, and reading what you write. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 18 12:50:27 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Wed May 18 11:09:01 2016. I would guess that many people here conclude it similarly as well. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 18 12:56:53 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 17 15:26:20 2016. You are not saying anything different than what I said.Yes I am. You said: "If ridership is dropping and capacity has remained constant, then service must have been reduced. Right?" Again, that's ridership down, capacity constant, service down. I said: "Service is capacity. If you reduce service, then capacity has to be reduced." Again, that's capacity down, service down. 'Capacity constant, service down' does DOES NOT EQUAL 'capacity down, service down.' I asked you a questionNo you didn't. You asked someone else a question. if service was reduced for capacity to remain the same with fewer passengers.That question makes no sense. So am I to assume from your response that service was reduced since you stated capacity remained the same with lower ridership?My response? I didn't say anything about that. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 19 08:36:03 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Wed May 18 11:09:01 2016. I fully know what capacity is. It is the number of passengers that can be carried within a certain time period. You are just making needless accusations. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu May 19 08:39:47 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 19 08:36:03 2016. Your usage of the term does not fit that definition. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 19 08:45:45 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 18 12:56:53 2016. You are not making any sense. You say you disagree with me because I said ridership down, capacity is down so service must be down also.You said service is capacity and only service and capacity went down. The problem with that is the numbers showed ridership was also down. So my statement that you disputed is also correct If ridership and capacity both went down, then service had to go down as well for capacity to remain the same otherwise there would have been more available capacity. I know I am wasting my time with you by trying to have an intelligent discussion with you because your response will only be "wrong" with no further explanation just like you always do. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu May 19 10:34:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 19 08:45:45 2016. Nobody is saying that service deteriorated or that capacity went down. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Thu May 19 10:38:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu May 19 08:39:47 2016. Exactly. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 19 15:05:28 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu May 19 08:39:47 2016. That is exactly how I used the term. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 20 11:35:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 19 08:45:45 2016. I never said any of that. I have idea what happened out there. I'm only talking about your statements concerning capacity and service. Contrary to what you are saying, service and capacity are the same. After reading this post though, it now seems that what you are calling capacity is actually properly called available capacity. Maybe. It's hard to tell with you. But it still seems that you don't know what you are taking about. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 20 18:44:49 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu May 19 08:39:47 2016. Exactly. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 20 18:44:57 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 19 15:05:28 2016. No it's not. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 20 18:45:12 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 20 11:35:11 2016. bump |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 21 10:08:56 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 20 11:35:11 2016. You don't know what you are talking about. Service and capacity are two different concepts. Service is how often a vehicle arrives. Capacity is how many those vehicles can service which is dependent on the amount of turnover.But as I said explaining this to you is useless since one cannot have an intelligent conversation with you because you just constantly change get subject and make baseless accusations and then resort to insults and name calling, then you deny you did any of that. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 21 10:34:04 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu May 19 08:39:47 2016. I clearly explained how I used the term. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat May 21 18:24:03 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 21 10:08:56 2016. That is entirely incorrect. FREQUENCY is how often the vehicle arrives. Furthermore, capacity has nothing to do with turnover. Turnover does not increase capacity- It just means that the same capacity can be used by more people. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat May 21 18:29:08 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 21 10:34:04 2016. Except your definition does not match your use. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 21 22:25:38 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sat May 21 18:24:03 2016. Correct. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 21 22:26:24 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat May 21 10:08:56 2016. Service and capacity are two different concepts. Service is how often a vehicle arrives. Capacity is how many those vehicles can service which is dependent on the amount of turnover.Completely incorrect. You're very wrong and obviously you were never a transportation planner or the director of bus planning. You're clueless. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 22 01:42:35 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sat May 21 18:29:08 2016. Exactly. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 23 21:14:22 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sat May 21 18:24:03 2016. Did I even mention "frequency"? No. So why are you confusing the issue by inserting it into the conversation? We were discussing capacity.There are really three ways you can view capacity. One is simply how many passengers a bus will hold. Or you can consider how many passengers can be carried within a given period of time (assuming buses are evenly spaced) with a given headway as buses pass a specific point. The third way of looking at capacity and what I was referring to is the number of passengers that can be carried on an an entire route within a given time period and that is dependent on turnover. If the turnover is five fold, the route can serve five times as many passengers with the same level of service than if there is zero turnover. So the capacity of the route is five times greater. More people can be serviced, hence the capacity of the route is greater. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 23 21:25:06 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sat May 21 18:29:08 2016. It certainly does. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 23 21:43:18 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 21 22:26:24 2016. I am completely correct. Service is the same as frequency. Capacity is something completely different. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon May 23 22:34:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 23 21:43:18 2016. Wrong. Capacity is a function of service. If service goes down, capacity goes down. If one goes up, they both go up. In the original post you made statements contrary to these truths. |
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