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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:43:26 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by fdtutf on Wed May 6 17:22:45 2015.

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GREAT POST!

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:43:36 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by N6 Limited on Wed May 6 17:21:33 2015.

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Almost none of the time.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:43:48 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed May 6 16:32:57 2015.

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Nope, it's not. Because you're wrong.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by fdtutf on Thu May 7 12:22:26 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:43:01 2015.

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BINGO

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by fdtutf on Thu May 7 12:25:27 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:40:44 2015.

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I've been saying specific stuff and arguing intelligently for YEARS! You don't listen!

You misunderstand. "Say [something] specific" is code for "say what I want you to say." "Argue intelligently" is code for "agree with me."

Does that clear things up?

An intense sweet tangy flavor. Distinctive for snacking, salads and fruit trays. Tend to retain their lively flavor and hold up well during cooking.

Well played.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 12:31:05 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by fdtutf on Thu May 7 12:25:27 2015.

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Does that clear things up?
Totally.

Well played.
Thanks.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:10:26 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by fdtutf on Wed May 6 17:22:45 2015.

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Why don't you tell that to the MTA? The MTA views SBS the solution to all bus problems. When asked by Greg Mocker what the MTA is doing to increase bus reliability, his response was " We are creating SBS bus routes."

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:16:36 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:43:48 2015.

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Aren't you even capable of making an intelligent post even some of the time.

Why does everyone who hasn't tuned you out completely have to wasted their time with your responses which are usually:

You are wrong.
You are an Idiot.
Correct.
Owned.
Paw3ned.
Proff.
BrooklynBus is dumb
BrooklynBus is wrong.
BrooklynBus is (any other unfavorable comment you want to insert.)
That's a lie.

That's because you have nothing worthwhile to say 95% of the time.


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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:19:29 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed May 6 16:55:08 2015.

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They are with possible exceptions for streets like Church Av, Linden Blvd, Eastern Parkway, Ave N and O (one way pair).

Are you saying Beverley Road is the only one out of sync but others nearby are in sync? I do not believe that is the case.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:20:30 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by N6 Limited on Wed May 6 14:45:30 2015.

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Are you actually trying to have an intelligent conversation with him?

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:24:39 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:43:01 2015.

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That assumes there is an ample supply of Dollar vans. You forget that a bus can hold three times what a dollar van can hold. You can't take a dollar van if there isn't one there.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:25:18 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue May 5 12:43:44 2015.

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No one said otherwise.


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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:32:04 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by fdtutf on Wed May 6 17:18:38 2015.

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You are just accusing me of being dishonest and going around in circles without making any point. When I asked you for your position you stated you didn't have any but still criticized my position.



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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:33:05 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:30:40 2015.

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Untrue.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:39:27 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by R30A on Wed May 6 16:29:28 2015.

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You are looking at the S79 SBS increase without looking at the local S78 decrease.

Then you look at both local and SBS for Manattan routes. You call that consistent methodology?

Who cares what happened four or five years ago? What is important is that the M34 went down by 11% last year and also went down the year before. Those decreases were greater than the small increases the year before.

M15 and M60 are also both down last year.

You are picking and choosing favorable data like the MTA does. That is just dishonest.

You are the one who is simply wrong.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:42:21 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by fdtutf on Thu May 7 12:25:27 2015.

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I have plenty intelligent discussions with people who can argue intelligently which obviously does not include either of you two.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by R30A on Thu May 7 17:59:04 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:10:26 2015.

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fdtutf and the MTA (and almost every other sentient being) are on the same page here. SBS is a set of improvements which designed to increase reliability among other benefits.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by R30A on Thu May 7 18:06:03 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:39:27 2015.

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But the S78 went up too, so your argument is still wrong.


Looking at this year vs last year on any line is irrelevant unless the change happened this year.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 18:09:48 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by R30A on Thu May 7 18:06:03 2015.

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Are you still quoting outdated meaningless statistics?

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 18:12:02 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:42:05 2015.

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I read the data quite fine. I am using current data not two or three year old data like R30 A is referring to.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 18:13:02 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:18:46 2015.

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That is something you are not capable of doing.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 18:18:53 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:40:44 2015.

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Apparently you never learned that if you are nice to people they will be nice to you back. When you are unnecessarily nasty and insult people as you do more often than anyone else on this board, they will fuck with you right back.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by R30A on Thu May 7 18:22:39 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 18:09:48 2015.

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I am quoting the only meaningful statistics for whether or not SBS is a success.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 08:23:07 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:16:36 2015.

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You know the real reason why? Because all those statement are true. I post the truth, mostly. If you can't deal with the truth, then leave.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 08:23:47 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:19:29 2015.

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Why would he be saying that???

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 08:24:20 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:20:30 2015.

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Yes. Because he's reasonable, unlike you.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 08:25:37 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:24:39 2015.

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LOL! If the demand was there and the operation was profitable, the there would be enough vans to supply demand (assuming the roadway capacity existed).

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 08:26:09 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:25:18 2015.

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Wrong. You implied it.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:33:11 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:33:05 2015.

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Nope. I posted the truth. Read it and weep.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:33:41 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by R30A on Thu May 7 18:22:39 2015.

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IAWTP

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:34:22 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:42:21 2015.

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No you don't. Show us at least 5 intelligent discussions with 5 intelligent people who generally agree with you.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:36:10 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by R30A on Thu May 7 17:59:04 2015.

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Yep

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:36:42 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 18:12:02 2015.

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Wrong. You can't read the right data.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:37:28 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 18:13:02 2015.

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No, it's something I do EXTRAORDINARILY WELL, but something you can't do well at all.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:39:30 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 18:18:53 2015.

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Apparently you never learned that if you are nice to people they will be nice to you back.
Why do you say that?

When you are unnecessarily nasty and insult people as you do more often than anyone else on this board
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! I've done no such thing!

they will fuck with you right back.
Who's fucking with me? Are you referring to when I was crying? Oh! I just had something in my eye. LOL.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by N6 Limited on Fri May 8 10:41:11 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:28:34 2015.

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The comedy was not in what I said, you all's actions in retrospect.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by N6 Limited on Fri May 8 10:41:29 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:28:34 2015.

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The comedy was not in what I said, but you all's actions in retrospect.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by fdtutf on Fri May 8 10:51:17 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:10:26 2015.

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The MTA views SBS the solution to all bus problems.

Again, this was the original question in the story:

Are Select Bus Routes the solution to traffic and crowded commutes?

Even if what you stated really were the MTA's view, those are two different questions. "Bus problems" =/= "traffic and crowded commutes."

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by fdtutf on Fri May 8 10:53:39 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 7 17:32:04 2015.

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You are just accusing me of being dishonest and going around in circles without making any point.

You were dishonest. That is my point.

When I asked you for your position you stated you didn't have any but still criticized my position.

No, I'm criticizing your dishonesty.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by N6 Limited on Fri May 8 12:53:36 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 7 08:18:46 2015.

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I know what you wanted "proff" for. but it's clearly obvious that lights are out of sync intentionally.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by N6 Limited on Fri May 8 13:07:15 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 08:25:37 2015.

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Remember how dollar vans were siphoning so much ridership that the MTA and bus operators were complaining to the city to do something about it?

Also, don't forget that free transfers made buses a "viable" option again.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 15:59:24 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by N6 Limited on Fri May 8 12:53:36 2015.

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No you don't clearly understand. Because you are again repeating the same baseless assertion without providing the requested proff.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 16:00:25 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by N6 Limited on Fri May 8 13:07:15 2015.

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No, like I said, I don't know much about them except that clearly there are still thousands of buses running.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 8 18:44:13 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:33:11 2015.

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Untrue.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 8 18:48:07 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:39:30 2015.

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You mean you never realized that if you are nice to people tey will be nice to you back?

Figures.

Now you deny that you ever insulted anyone? You have called me an idiot at least a dozen times, not to mention all the others you have called idiots and other names.

You are the king of insulters on this Board and the reason why so many have left because they don't want to deal with you. And you just don't see it.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 8 18:49:31 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by fdtutf on Fri May 8 10:53:39 2015.

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But you have only accused. You haven't made any point.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 8 18:50:23 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 8 08:36:42 2015.

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Proff.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 8 18:51:26 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by R30A on Thu May 7 18:22:39 2015.

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What was happening four years ago does not reflect what is happening today and is therefore irrelevant.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 8 18:56:15 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 8 16:00:25 2015.

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And that's because there aren't enough dollar vans to replace the buses, and if they would magically appear, they wouldn't go anywhere because the roads would be too congested with them. Also, not many would be willing to pay an extra $5.00 a day (or whatever they charge now) if they currently are riding the bus with a free transfer.

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Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 8 19:00:57 2015, in response to Re: Are Select Bus Routes the Solution to Traffic and Crowded Commutes?, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 8 18:56:15 2015.

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Now you are saying I implied more people are taking vans than buses and that I implied there would be enough road capacity to handle all the extra vans?

You are either a liar or have a serious reading comprehension problem because I never said or implied anything of the sort. I was agreeing with you.

You just look for anything to argue about even when someone agrees with you. What is wrong with you anyway?

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