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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 3 16:03:24 2015 edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Using only public bus, rail, and ferry service, what is the fastest way to circle Manhattan? Circling Manhattan is defined as beginning and ending in the same spot (say, Hoboken, but it could be elsewhere), having formed a full loop around Manhattan without once entering it. It must be public transit, and not a private tour of any kind (i.e. no Circle Line Cruise, cab/taxi service, private automobile, etc.) If you establish a route, or find it too difficult to do so, you can try an easier one, which pretends that the GWB and all points north are outside Manhattan and therefore fair game.
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Re: Circumvent Manhattan
Posted by kcram3500* on Tue Mar 3 17:19:51 2015, in response to Circumvent Manhattan, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 3 16:03:24 2015.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The schedule timing would have to be worked out, but one route would be this: Start at Hoboken train station. NJT Main/Bergen Line to Suffern. TZX to White Plains Trans Center Bee-Line 3 to Bronx/242nd Street Bx9 to Boston and Tremont Q44 to Jamaica Station Q24 to Broadway Junction B25 to Fulton and Flatbush B63 to 86th street S53 to Castleton and Broadway S46 to Morningstar S89 to Bayonne/HBLR HBLR to Hoboken
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Re: Circumvent Manhattan
Posted by New Flyer #857* on Tue Mar 3 18:52:02 2015, in response to Re: Circumvent Manhattan, posted by kcram3500 on Tue Mar 3 17:19:51 2015.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I suppose that would be good, if there was an added restriction against using any New York rail services. There are a lot of variations to this challenge. . .if you add or take away certain restrictions.
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Re: Circumvent Manhattan
Posted by kcram3500* on Tue Mar 3 20:54:18 2015, in response to Re: Circumvent Manhattan, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 3 18:52:02 2015.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d One could certainly replace some of the buses with Metro North and subways, but since this was posed on BusChat, I figured I'd do plenty of bus.
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Re: Circumvent Manhattan
Posted by checkmatechamp13* on Tue Mar 3 23:59:20 2015, in response to Circumvent Manhattan, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 3 16:03:24 2015.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It seems like it would have to involve the S89 for one leg of the trip, since being immediately west of Manhattan means you're in NJ, and the only way to get from NJ to Staten Island (which is the only way to complete the southern portion of the loop, since there's no direct NJ-Brooklyn service) is to take the S89. Alright, so treating the GWB as being outside Manhattan, we can start at the GWB and do as follows: Bx36 to West Farms Q44 to Jamaica (J) train to Broadway Junction (A) train to Jay Street (R) train to 86th Street S79 to Eltingville Transit Center S89 to Bayonne HBLR to Bergenline Avenue (transfer at Pavonia/Newport) #181 to GWB I'll try the Hoboken one again: Main/Bergen County Line to Suffern TZX to White Plains #60 to New Rochelle #45 to PBP Q50 to Flushing (7) train to QBP B62 to MetroTech (R) train to 86th Street S53 to Victory Blvd S62/92 to Richmond Avenue S89 to Bayonne HBLR to Hoboken Now a really long one for fun: Start at Long Beach N33 to Far Rockaway Q22 to Beach 169th Street Q35 to Avenue U B3 to 86th Street B1 to 4th Avenue S53 to Forest Avenue S48/98 to Richmond Avenue S89 to Bayonne HBLR to Hoboken Main/Bergen County Line to Suffern TZX to White Plains #20/21 to Bedford Park Bx26 to White Plains Road Bx39 to Parkchester Q44 to Jamaica N4 to Lynbrook N15 to Long Beach
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Re: Circumvent Manhattan
Posted by JAzumah* on Wed Mar 4 00:28:38 2015, in response to Re: Circumvent Manhattan, posted by kcram3500 on Tue Mar 3 17:19:51 2015.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The single constraint is the S89 on this itinerary.
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Re: Circumvent Manhattan
Posted by kcram3500* on Wed Mar 4 17:10:53 2015, in response to Re: Circumvent Manhattan, posted by JAzumah on Wed Mar 4 00:28:38 2015.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You're also limited to the Q44 or Q50 that use the Whitestone. RFK-Triboro touches Manhattan (Randall's Island), and no buses use the Throg.
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Re: Circumvent Manhattan
Posted by checkmatechamp13* on Wed Mar 4 17:50:07 2015, in response to Re: Circumvent Manhattan, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Mar 4 17:10:53 2015.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Plus, the only local bus over the RFK-Triboro is the M60 anyway, which would require a transfer in Manhattan.
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Re: Circumvent Manhattan
Posted by jasonbellamy* on Thu Mar 5 14:18:45 2015, in response to Re: Circumvent Manhattan, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Mar 4 17:10:53 2015.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Short Line and Adirondack Trailways use the Throgs Neck Bridge on their routes from Long Island to upstate. There are intermediate stops in Westchester and Rockland.
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