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NICE buses

Posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014

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I heard that NICE will be purchasing previously owned (AKA used/AKA secondhand) buses from Foothill Transit.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Nov 25 19:08:35 2014, in response to NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014.

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Kind of makes sense. I think the Orions they have are mechanically similar.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by caine515 on Tue Nov 25 21:21:58 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Nov 25 19:08:35 2014.

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Are they in better or worse condition then what they have?

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by busway flyer on Tue Nov 25 22:44:41 2014, in response to NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014.

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They can't afford new coaches ?

S.FL.T.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 23:43:29 2014, in response to NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014.

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I think Foothill buses are in better shape than Nice buses. With the budget NICE has that's all they can afford.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Cornell Park on Wed Nov 26 05:30:16 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 23:43:29 2014.

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What exactly does NICE's operating budget have to do with bus purchases?

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by northshore on Wed Nov 26 07:33:48 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Cornell Park on Wed Nov 26 05:30:16 2014.

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I am not referring to their operating budget. I am referring to their capital budget.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 26 08:44:29 2014, in response to NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014.

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I have a question, which I'm surprised nobody asked this before, but how reliable is the source you heard this from.

I mean I've heard stuff from people that should have know but that information has turned out to be false. I'm not saying that your lying or that your source is lying, I'm just merley pointing out the need to be cautious since even though you heard it, it could be wrong.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 26 09:00:51 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 26 08:44:29 2014.

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northshore is quite often wrong, and only sometimes correct. So you are correct to be asking about his source.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by northshore on Wed Nov 26 09:01:16 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 26 08:44:29 2014.

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True.It is someone from southern California involved with the transit systems of LA.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by northshore on Wed Nov 26 09:02:54 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 26 09:00:51 2014.

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Absolutely true. I cannot guarantee the rumor.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 26 09:11:32 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by northshore on Wed Nov 26 09:02:54 2014.

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Thank you.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 28 12:56:47 2014, in response to NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014.

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Is NICE buying all retire Foothill Transit buses with suburban seats?

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 28 12:58:34 2014, in response to NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014.

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Transit Sales in Riverside, CA has 31 buses: http://transitsales.com.previewc28.carrierzone.com/40ft-orion-v-cng/

Looks okay.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by northshore on Fri Nov 28 13:59:35 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 28 12:56:47 2014.

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I don't know the details.Bur MSBA/LI Bus has had buses with suburban seating before. For that matter NYCT has used buses with suburban seating on its local routes in the past.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by northshore on Fri Nov 28 14:04:41 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 28 12:58:34 2014.

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Despite what Terrapin station thinks, my information is impeccably accurate.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 28 14:11:30 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by northshore on Fri Nov 28 14:04:41 2014.

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Weinberg is a fucking jerk

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 28 14:53:15 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by northshore on Fri Nov 28 14:04:41 2014.

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Wrong! LOL! You're wrong more often than not.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by caine515 on Fri Nov 28 15:47:36 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 28 12:58:34 2014.

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The buses are 2002 models.the mileage must be high. Would NICE actually add buses with the same age as the ones they trying to retire?

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 28 21:18:08 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by caine515 on Fri Nov 28 15:47:36 2014.

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If NICE finds the retire Foothill Transit buses deem runnable and it's a cheap to buy for another 2 to 3 years in service... it's possible.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by merrick1 on Sat Nov 29 08:55:58 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 28 21:18:08 2014.

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Are there enough CNG fueling stations across the country to allow the buses to be driven from California to New York?

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Nov 29 09:47:56 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by caine515 on Fri Nov 28 15:47:36 2014.

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If their miliage is below the 500,000, and they are in decent shape, I see why not. I mean the name of the game is to make service, if they can do that with buses that are the same age as the ones they are retiring, but are in better shape then why not. I mean it's not like anyone would probably care since the only diffrence seems to be the seats.

I mean all things considering it could be worse, NICE could easily not consider buying the used buses and use Able-Ride buses to make service. Now that's something people would notice.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 29 10:30:22 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Mac5689 on Sat Nov 29 09:47:56 2014.

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Just out of curiosity, how much time left on the CNG cylinders? Foothill has been retiring 2002 buses, that could buy NC a few years to acquire some new buses.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Nov 29 11:32:22 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 29 10:30:22 2014.

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It could be 15 or 20 year tank. NICE is ordering new buses now.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Nov 29 12:09:52 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by merrick1 on Sat Nov 29 08:55:58 2014.

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It should be. How the bus manufactures deliver CNG buses cross country?

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Nov 29 12:17:05 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Nov 29 11:32:22 2014.

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Aren't most of the early tanks 12 years?

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by merrick1 on Sat Nov 29 12:48:04 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Nov 29 12:09:52 2014.

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I found this map. It looks like they might have to plan the route. There don't seem to be a lot of GNG fueling stations in Kansas and Nebraska

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Hart Bus on Sat Nov 29 13:27:37 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by merrick1 on Sat Nov 29 12:48:04 2014.

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What would be the cost to put them on a flat-bed and truck them cross-country versus flying the drivers to the west coast, and pay their salaries.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Nov 29 13:55:12 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by JAzumah on Sat Nov 29 12:17:05 2014.

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MTA recent retirement of 1999 Orion V CNG and 1999-2000 New Flyer C40LF tanks are 15 year certification.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by Cappy on Mon Dec 8 16:36:25 2014, in response to NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014.

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Looks like the info you got from the source is true. Here's the link to an NYCTF post with picture proff: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/33981-random-thoughts-thread-nassau-inter-county-express-nice/?p=808134

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by northshore on Mon Dec 8 17:29:08 2014, in response to Re: NICE buses, posted by Cappy on Mon Dec 8 16:36:25 2014.

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I only receive my information from the most accurate sources.

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Re: NICE buses

Posted by novabus on Mon Dec 8 19:54:58 2014, in response to NICE buses, posted by northshore on Tue Nov 25 19:04:33 2014.

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two(2) of the Foothill Transit buses purchased by Nice Bus are @ NJL DEPOT # 1223 & #1227

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