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Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Oct 16 20:16:24 2014

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I remember, not too long ago, when these were star attractions at APTA.
Being replaced by the new MCI's.
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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by northshore on Thu Oct 16 21:43:56 2014, in response to Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Oct 16 20:16:24 2014.

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How come Houston can still operate these and New York couldn't?

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Oct 16 21:50:40 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by northshore on Thu Oct 16 21:43:56 2014.

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I should know???

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Oct 17 05:19:39 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by northshore on Thu Oct 16 21:43:56 2014.

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They can't fit anywhere else but Stengal.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Oct 17 05:20:24 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Oct 17 05:19:39 2014.

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I should say Stengel.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 17 05:48:41 2014, in response to Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Oct 16 20:16:24 2014.

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Great pics I wonder does any other TA still use them ?

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by ctrabs74 on Fri Oct 17 11:23:29 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by northshore on Thu Oct 16 21:43:56 2014.

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Probably because Houston had at least 100 of these Vikings and NYC only had three.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by northshore on Fri Oct 17 11:49:25 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Oct 17 05:19:39 2014.

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Correct. I found out that the Vikings are higher than the MCI's and they cannot clear many overhangs. The only route they could be used on was the X-51 Flushing-Manhattan Express. When the X-51 was discontinued, the buses were retired and are now in storage @ Eastchester Depot.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by Cappy on Fri Oct 17 13:45:05 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 17 05:48:41 2014.

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No. Only Houston Metro and NYC Transit ordered these buses.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 17 15:13:19 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by Cappy on Fri Oct 17 13:45:05 2014.

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Wow NOT a popular bus model at all.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Oct 17 15:56:56 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by northshore on Fri Oct 17 11:49:25 2014.

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Yes, and they refuse to sell them. We contacted MTA about buying them over and over and never got an answer

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 17 17:03:37 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Oct 17 15:56:56 2014.

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Strange I wonder why they won't sell them ?

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Oct 17 20:19:47 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 17 17:03:37 2014.

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They don't want to get sued if someone drives the bus somewhere it can't fit? I think if another TA like NJT wanted them, the TA would probably sell it to them, but there probably hesitant to sell these buses to some random person.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Oct 17 20:26:09 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Oct 17 20:19:47 2014.

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IIRC, MTA did try selling them a few years ago.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by TheHat on Fri Oct 17 23:48:00 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by Cornell Park on Fri Oct 17 20:26:09 2014.

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Yup, Cornell. Surplus sales had them up there for IIRC $80K. No takers, except they showed up on bus bargain news with the photos copied from MTA surplus sales site.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 18 09:53:34 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Oct 17 20:19:47 2014.

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Then scrap them.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Oct 18 19:44:44 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 18 09:53:34 2014.

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Then scrap them.

Sell 'em to Houston. At least for parts if not roadworthy.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by r17-6599 on Sat Oct 18 23:25:48 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Oct 18 19:44:44 2014.

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Houston is currently replacing them with new MCI's; never wanted them back.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 14:31:47 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by northshore on Thu Oct 16 21:43:56 2014.

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That's a dumb question.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 14:33:51 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Oct 17 15:56:56 2014.

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You obviously weren't speaking to the right people. You need to get contacts and forge relationships. And how could you afford them?

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 14:52:31 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by TheHat on Fri Oct 17 23:48:00 2014.

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Huh?

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Mon Oct 20 08:51:53 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by northshore on Fri Oct 17 11:49:25 2014.

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Can't they fit in the newest depot Charleston?

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Oct 20 10:24:54 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Mon Oct 20 08:51:53 2014.

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They are m/y 1999 buses and other than Houston and NY, no one bought them. Why go through hoops to find a way to operate something you've only got three of. Sad to see any bus disappear, but the cruiser/coach market is MCI and Prevost for the foreseeable future. It's not like New Flyer misses them in their product line, they seem to be doing pretty well on the transit side.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by 167t on Mon Oct 20 12:42:51 2014, in response to Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Oct 16 20:16:24 2014.

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San Diego is using a bunch of Bluebird "coaches" (ech!) on their Veolia-operated commuter express trips. Their new Rapid Ride (MTS operated) are using new suburban seating New Flyer artics.

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Re: Houston: Vikings still in service

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 20 13:24:59 2014, in response to Re: Houston: Vikings still in service, posted by Cappy on Fri Oct 17 13:45:05 2014.

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No. Only Houston Metro and NYC Transit ordered these buses.

Several of Houston's have been auctioned and are on to their second lives.

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