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New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by jasonnyc on Sat Aug 23 10:07:05 2014

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This morning I noticed an M15 SBS bus with what appeared to be whitish/green LED route signage instead of the usual orange. The green I saw might be because I saw it at an angle and it's actually supposed to be white.

Is this a pilot or have they finally settled on new signage coloring for SBS? This would be nice as I regularly ride the M15 and Bx41 SBS buses.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 10:24:52 2014, in response to New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by jasonnyc on Sat Aug 23 10:07:05 2014.

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I don't recall the number, but there is 1 LFSA with a multicolor luminator. Maybe 1287? Someone here recently discussed the sign model in detail here not to long ago on the new XD40, they can cast some light on this.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by Dr. Casca on Sat Aug 23 16:15:54 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 10:24:52 2014.

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1237.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 16:35:12 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by Dr. Casca on Sat Aug 23 16:15:54 2014.

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Thanks!

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 23 19:09:20 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 10:24:52 2014.

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they can cast some light on this.

Just wanted to acknowledge the pun. Not sure if it was intended or if anyone got it.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by B82 East NY-Starrett on Sat Aug 23 21:06:40 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 10:24:52 2014.

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So they're still trying to achieve this in some form


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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by r17-6599 on Sat Aug 23 21:11:42 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by B82 East NY-Starrett on Sat Aug 23 21:06:40 2014.

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Suppose the MTA kept the blue lights, but a solid light, not flashing. That might work. They do that on all the buses in Toronto; no outcry up there.
jrc

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by B82 East NY-Starrett on Sat Aug 23 21:18:47 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by r17-6599 on Sat Aug 23 21:11:42 2014.

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I'm pretty sure Toronto doesn't have a rep from some Podunk Island bringing up obscure VTLs, but I still miss those blue lights.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 22:55:44 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 23 19:09:20 2014.

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It was & you got it.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 23 23:47:27 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by r17-6599 on Sat Aug 23 21:11:42 2014.

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Suppose the MTA kept the blue lights, but a solid light, not flashing. That might work.

That was my suggestion too, why not have a steady light, not flashing.

They do that on all the buses in Toronto; no outcry up there.
jrc


Maybe Toronto doesn't have idiots who complain at the drop of a hat, as long as the news media gives them exposure. :(

Bill Newkirk


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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Aug 24 01:20:00 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 10:24:52 2014.

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I have not seen 1237 in person yet, but 7090 is equipped with what appears to be a Luminator Spectrum full color 24x200.

Judging from pics of 1237 I saw on Google, I'd say it's equipped with the same.

Though I'm curious about the text on the right side is all about.



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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Aug 24 08:13:50 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Aug 24 01:20:00 2014.

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I would SO like to see multi-color (that is, different colors at the same time) destination signs on buses in NYC. It would look especially cool surrounded by the lights of Times Square.

I also wish they would look into the option of having an important text (such as the neighborhood of the destination, or a significant via street) remain steady on the top line, while the bottom line scrolls. I think there's a Manhattan local bus route that has this?

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Aug 24 08:16:11 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by B82 East NY-Starrett on Sat Aug 23 21:06:40 2014.

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This is similar to destination signs in Paris. The color of the route number on the destination sign matches the color you'd see on the bus map, and on the bus stop signs, making it all the more recognizable. In fact, even the buses in Paris that still use roll signs have the matching color for the route number on the roll sign.

I think this display you posted is ideal. Whether or not we need the text on the right (which indicates departure time or run number?) is debatable.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Aug 24 12:01:35 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Aug 24 08:13:50 2014.

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thats only tour buses

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Aug 24 15:41:40 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Aug 24 12:01:35 2014.

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By law?

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Aug 24 15:43:06 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Aug 24 15:41:40 2014.

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Oh, I see what you're saying. No, I know there's definitely at least one NYCT or MTAB program that has it set up for the bottom to scroll while the top is steady. It may only be one program though. Maybe it's NICE?

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Aug 24 16:13:19 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Aug 24 15:43:06 2014.

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I don't know.

NICE buses that has Hanover signs do scroll at the side signs.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sun Aug 24 17:33:18 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Aug 24 01:20:00 2014.

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What is the "SBS 115" on the right side of the sign?

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Aug 24 17:50:31 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sun Aug 24 17:33:18 2014.

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At first, I thought it was the final destination (as in 115 St), but the M15 ends at 126 St.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by R46 5636 on Sun Aug 24 21:08:57 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sun Aug 24 17:33:18 2014.

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I was about to ask this myself. My only guess is the sign code. I once saw the sign yellow and when the destination changed at South Ferry the numbers disappeared.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Sun Aug 24 21:58:52 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by Dr. Casca on Sat Aug 23 16:15:54 2014.

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Wasn't #1237 also the GMC RTS with some experimental A/C units? (Sutrak)?

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 25 23:47:55 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Aug 24 16:13:19 2014.

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I saw that on an N6 in Jamaica.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Aug 26 23:09:31 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by R46 5636 on Sun Aug 24 21:08:57 2014.

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My only guess is the sign code.

I think that's not far off. Destination sign codes for the M15 do start with 115.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sat Aug 30 13:53:52 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Aug 24 01:20:00 2014.

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Is that really blue LED? That looks awesome. I'd like to see it in person.

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Re: New SBS LED sign colors?

Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Aug 30 17:53:38 2014, in response to Re: New SBS LED sign colors?, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sat Aug 30 13:53:52 2014.

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its multi-color led sign

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