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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by MR RT on Tue Aug 19 07:11:37 2014, in response to Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 18 19:09:44 2014. '... "Suffolk County lacks a single north-south transit connection, making travel without a car extremely difficult," the study states ...'The 3 routes picked, Route 110; Nicolis Rd; & Sagtikos Pky are all busy, but what makes them think $78M will result in lots of riders ? Why not try a local bus route first ? |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Aug 19 07:24:16 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by MR RT on Tue Aug 19 07:11:37 2014. Possibly some transportation studies? |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Aug 19 13:24:58 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by MR RT on Tue Aug 19 07:11:37 2014. Route 110 already has a local bus route, the S1 running between Huntington and Amityville, full time (according to what ST runs). Nicholls Road may also have a bus route too. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Aug 19 13:56:15 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Aug 19 13:24:58 2014. Nicolls Road is S71 bus route |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Aug 19 14:02:11 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Aug 19 13:56:15 2014. Somehow a bus route with 90 min headway and 8 round trips a day is going to get a boost in ridership because of BRT? |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Aug 19 14:05:45 2014, in response to Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 18 19:09:44 2014. See there's a difference between certain travel patterns and highway usage. The Sagtikos connects the east-west highways in Suffolk County, many are using it just to get between the LIE/NSP/SSP & Sunrise Highway. A BRT route would accomplish what exactly? |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Aug 19 16:04:39 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by MR RT on Tue Aug 19 07:11:37 2014. Well, [b]if[/b] any route should get BRT, it should be the S1 up Route 110, because it's the busiest route in the county. But even then, it runs every every 15 minutes during rush hour and 30 minutes for most of the day. It's not like here in NYC, where the busiest routes have ample service, so you can serve both local and SBS riders with frequent service.BRT isn't going to magically make a ton of riders appear out of thin air. If the existing local route isn't even that frequent, how can a BRT route succeed? |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 19 18:18:43 2014, in response to Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 18 19:09:44 2014. Heh. BRT never is. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Aug 19 19:49:30 2014, in response to Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 18 19:09:44 2014. Ehhh I don't see this being useful. Rt 110 could use a bus lane in some spots, but that's as far as I'd go |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by ntrainride on Tue Aug 19 19:52:51 2014, in response to Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 18 19:09:44 2014. Rt. 110 is primed for higher density development. The section from Jericho, Turnpike to the Great Neck Road especially. Combine this with a re-opened Republic station and, "long term", this will be a winner. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Aug 19 23:06:30 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Aug 19 13:24:58 2014. Nicholls Road doesn't have a route that travels it's full length, which the BRT would do.The S71 travels on Nicolls from Stony Brook to SCCC-Selden. Nicholls Road however is a heavily traveled road and has quite a few accidents, and that is probably one reason why the S71 ends up getting delayed. Unless they make a dedicated Bus lane and somehow are able to strickly enforce it, I don't see a BRT route working on Nichools Road. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Aug 19 23:08:10 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Aug 19 13:56:15 2014. The S71 doesn't travel the full length of Nicholls, like a BRT would do, it only travels on Nicholls from SCCC-Selden to Stony Brook RR. Also the S71 gets delayed, most likely because of Nicholls Road. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Tue Aug 19 23:58:36 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by MR RT on Tue Aug 19 07:11:37 2014. Sagtikos Parkway? Would have to raise Overpasses most are at 7ft (Per Robert Moses) for any bus service on the Parkway.Could run the service on nearby Commack Road - Suffolk cr4 |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Aug 20 06:23:55 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Tue Aug 19 23:58:36 2014. Aren't buses shorter then 7ft? I mean there is a railroad bridge for the LIRR near me that has a clearnce of 4ft or somewhere around that and the bus makes it under just fine. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 20 08:52:21 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Mac5689 on Wed Aug 20 06:23:55 2014. There is no way the clearance is 4 feet. Most people are taller than that. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 20 09:27:27 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Aug 19 14:05:45 2014. See there's a difference between certain travel patterns and highway usage. The Sagtikos connects the east-west highways in Suffolk County, many are using it just to get between the LIE/NSP/SSP & Sunrise Highway. A BRT route would accomplish what exactly?According to the article, to serve the proposed Heartland Town Square development and encourage more development along the corridor. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 20 09:29:43 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Tue Aug 19 23:58:36 2014. Sagtikos Parkway? Would have to raise Overpasses most are at 7ft (Per Robert Moses) for any bus service on the Parkway.Where do you get 7 feet? The lowest overpass on the Sagtikos is 10'9" (southbound under the Northern State); most are 11'4" to 12'. I assume the $20 million in roadway improvements for the BRT route includes some bridge replacement. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 20 09:35:45 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Mac5689 on Wed Aug 20 06:23:55 2014. I mean there is a railroad bridge for the LIRR near me that has a clearnce of 4ft or somewhere around that and the bus makes it under just fine.I don't think so... A New Flyer Xcelsior hybrid is 10'10" tall; an Orion VII CNG is 11'3". |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Aug 20 13:43:33 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 20 08:52:21 2014. Well there is a depression in the road right about at the railroad bridge which I'm not sure if it would play a factor, though I could be off by a foot or two. The best estimite would be that the clearence is a few inches over the hright of a diesel Orion VII NG, because when riding in one of Suffolk's under the bridge the Orion VII looks like it would scrap the top. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Aug 20 13:48:58 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 20 08:52:21 2014. Ok I was off, by alot. The clearence is 11-8', I have no idea why I thought it was 4 feet. |
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Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes |
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Posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Sat Aug 23 02:51:07 2014, in response to Re: Suffolk County BRT plan: $78 MILLION for Route 110, Nicolls Rd, Sagtikos Pkwy routes, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 20 09:29:43 2014. Most of the warning sings at parkway entrance ramps say" Max Vel Height 7" - 10' " http://www.longislandexchange.com/longisland/images/SagtikosParkwayEntrancefromWestboundLIECommack.jpg Sagtikos Parkway Entrance from Westbound Long Island Expressway, Commack |
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