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Cleveland's Novas

Posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 11 17:24:35 2014

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Running again, mostly am/pm.
Most likelywill be replaced by new Gillig CNG's next May.

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 11 20:12:11 2014, in response to Cleveland's Novas, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 11 17:24:35 2014.

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Do they have a shorter wheel base and turning radius than most 40' competitor buses ?

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 11 20:18:55 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 11 20:12:11 2014.

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I'm not sure, but it looks like it.
jrc

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by Flxible4life on Mon Aug 11 23:14:59 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 11 20:18:55 2014.

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Damn, I thought they were dead. I didn't see them while I was up there passing by lastyear during a.m. rush. To answer your question. Yes they will be replaced by the Gilligs

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 11 23:28:45 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by Flxible4life on Mon Aug 11 23:14:59 2014.

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In fact I caught one last December while I visited. This time they were more a presence especially am/pm periods.
jrc

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by Railbus63 on Tue Aug 12 09:11:49 2014, in response to Cleveland's Novas, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 11 17:24:35 2014.

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Nice catches! I need to get to Cleveland sometime soon before the new Gilligs start wiping out these older models.

Jim

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Aug 12 09:38:01 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by Railbus63 on Tue Aug 12 09:11:49 2014.

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Glad U like, Jim. The Gilligs are slated to come in May.
The Xceslors are to start running line 55/ 55F. Personally, I can't see it.
I ride those lines, when they run. They pull that cut-back garbage and don't make it past Westgate TC except for am/pm rush. The least they could do is go to Westlake Park n Ride. And the buses are seldom crowded, from what I saw. The expresses are another story; and a bargain at the standard fare. (Of course, I use senior fare these days).
If you depend on the buses , and are staying in the burbs, get familiar with the schedules and get ready for a curtailed day.
When GCRTA ran circulators 'tween the outlying areas' transit centers, they ran often, and connected with buses that ran to other districts, the rapid and directly to downtown. You need a car now to go there, so it defeats the point of taking a bus.
Otherwise, a nice system.
jrc

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by Flxible4life on Tue Aug 12 21:10:53 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 11 23:28:45 2014.

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I went there during the summer of last year on my way to Toledo, OH from New York on Greyhound lines. During the hour break at the terminal, I walk along Superior Street towards Public Square to sightseeing some buses of Cleveland RTA, Akron Metro's MCIs and LakeTran commuter MCIs

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by Flxible4life on Tue Aug 12 21:14:21 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by r17-6599 on Tue Aug 12 09:38:01 2014.

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I wish it would get back to the 800+ buses that they had decades ago

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Aug 12 21:42:47 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by Flxible4life on Tue Aug 12 21:10:53 2014.

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Yep, shot plenty of that last week. I was riding the Redline and sort of resigned myself to having a boring time, as I was just there in December. Then I ran into the Xcelsiors and everything fell into place afterwards.
Had a great time with lots to do, including a 'hound trip to Columbus.
jrc

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Aug 12 21:43:34 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by Flxible4life on Tue Aug 12 21:14:21 2014.

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I wish the private operators could come back, as it was prior to RTA.
jrc

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by ctrabs74 on Mon Aug 18 15:18:12 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by r17-6599 on Tue Aug 12 09:38:01 2014.

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I didn't notice any Xcelsior artics running on the 55/55F on Friday afternoon; I'm presuming they were still running the Red Line shuttles at Windermere.

I did spot a few Novas during the rush hour, which appears to be the only time they're running these days. Almost every other bus I saw, save for the 3000-series D60LFR artics were NABIs.

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by ctrabs74 on Mon Aug 18 16:16:25 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by Flxible4life on Tue Aug 12 21:10:53 2014.

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If you time it right during the rush hours, you will also spot a PARTA (Portage Area RTA) Orion VII NG diesel heading to/from the Kent State/Portage County area and some SARTA (Stark Area RTA) Gilligs en route to Canton (I happened to spot a Canton-bound SARTA CNG Gillig on Friday).

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by r17-6599 on Thu Aug 21 21:35:09 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by ctrabs74 on Mon Aug 18 15:18:12 2014.

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Not sure when the Xcelsiors are to start running the 55/55F. There was still work going on out at Clifton last I saw.
joe

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by ctrabs74 on Fri Aug 22 01:33:00 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Aug 21 21:35:09 2014.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Xcelsiors don't show up on the 55/55F until after the Red Line bus bridge is complete sometime next month.

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Re: Cleveland's Novas

Posted by r17-6599 on Fri Aug 22 19:31:38 2014, in response to Re: Cleveland's Novas, posted by ctrabs74 on Mon Aug 18 16:16:25 2014.

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Such as these? Yep, Cleveland can be interesting, for short periods at a time.
Njoy,
jrc

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