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Posted by Joe on Sun Jun 23 20:42:33 2013 The photo below shows the ninth northbound run of N87 today, Sunday, June 23, 2013. Scheduled departure from Jones, 6:20 p.m. A bit late when it left the Wantagh Parkway in this photo. Looked like eight passengers.
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Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville |
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Posted by MR RT on Tue Jun 25 07:09:31 2013, in response to N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Sun Jun 23 20:42:33 2013. The schedule was issued May 25th |
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Posted by NorthShore on Tue Jun 25 08:30:50 2013, in response to N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Sun Jun 23 20:42:33 2013. Full of juvenile delinquents from Levittown. |
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Posted by jasonbellamy on Tue Jun 25 15:04:50 2013, in response to N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Sun Jun 23 20:42:33 2013. Were there any summers where this route didn't operate? I know it was scheduled to be cut, and then reinstated.Missing just one summer would cause a big ridership hit once it starts up again. |
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Posted by NorthShore on Tue Jun 25 15:48:18 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by jasonbellamy on Tue Jun 25 15:04:50 2013. The N87 Hicksville-Jones Beach was discontinued in 2009.This is the first summer of reinstatement. |
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Posted by Joe on Tue Jun 25 16:28:15 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by NorthShore on Tue Jun 25 15:48:18 2013. About 1973, MSBA inherited the Hicksville - Jones Beach summer route from some private company, I don't know which. At the time, there were perhaps four routes to Jones Beach, including, I believe one from 165th Street terminal.--- The present N87 map shows it using Newbridge Road south to North Jerusalem Road, east to Wantagh Avenue (near MacArthur HS), then south on Wantagh Avenue west on Merrick Road, curve up onto the southbound Wantagh Parkway. I am uncertain whether that was the "old" route. --- In my view, the youngsters riding this to the beach are not juvenile delinquents. They are kids getting used to public transit, instead of relying on Mom or Dad for car transportation. They could also bicycle to the beach, but I learned that the slight upgrade to Hicksville (139 foot elevation) is a challenge. Southbound rides are easy. Also, some beach employees depend on the bus. They are workers in society. |
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Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville |
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Posted by NorthShore on Tue Jun 25 16:55:09 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Tue Jun 25 16:28:15 2013. As you stated this was an inherited route from a private operator. Most Jones Beach service was either Bee Line/Stagecoach (Freeport and Wantagh shuttles) or Schenck that served many Queens and Nassau locations.Steinway Transit and New York Bus Service were also in the the action. I believe the Hicksville line was an extension of the Wantagh shuttle, so I would guess Stagecoach operated the route. As you described the route, the routing is the same. I've had the pleasure of riding the line many times. The passengers during the week are primary teenagers whose parents are probably working so they can't drive them (or they don't want to be seen with mommy or daddy). The teens go wild from boarding the bus to exiting. I don't know how the drivers can stand it. |
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Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville |
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Posted by hound on Wed Jun 26 00:13:52 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by NorthShore on Tue Jun 25 16:55:09 2013. I believe Mid-Island Transit operated the JB route from Hicksville, as well as other locations such as Farmingdale & Bethpage. I can attest to the wildness of the teens on the JB bus,as I worked it. I once squeezed about 118 of them on one trip out of the beach. Couldn't hear myself think. |
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Posted by Joe on Wed Jun 26 08:41:11 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by hound on Wed Jun 26 00:13:52 2013. I am much surprised to see this item for $50 on ebay:---- It shows six trips daily from the Central Bus Terminal, Flushing, fare fifty cents weekdays, seventy-five cents weekends. Issued May 1937. Operator: North Shore. |
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Posted by hound on Thu Jun 27 00:36:59 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Wed Jun 26 08:41:11 2013. 15 min. from Roosevelt to Jones Beach via Bellmore & the Wantagh Pkwy? They must have had pretty fast buses! |
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Posted by Joe on Fri Jun 28 15:29:24 2013, in response to N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Sun Jun 23 20:42:33 2013. Thursday, June 27, 2013, was overcast, so only a hundred or so cars were in the nearest parking lot and bus patronage was low. Below, the bus stop at the Central Mall wisely warns passengers about the need for a fistful of change or a Metrocard. About 5:35, a bus to Freeport had six passengers.  Clicking on a photo brings you to Flickr, a chance to enlarge the photo, or, if you scroll down, see further comments. |
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Posted by NorthShore on Fri Jun 28 15:43:37 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Fri Jun 28 15:29:24 2013. Shouldn't the N88 sign be "Freeport" instead of "Jones Beach"? |
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Posted by Joe on Fri Jun 28 17:13:29 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Fri Jun 28 15:29:24 2013. You're correct! I didn't spot NICE's error on the bus stop sign.Thanks. Joe |
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Posted by Brett on Sat Jun 29 02:36:56 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by Joe on Fri Jun 28 15:29:24 2013. Did the 1700s have the announcements playing? I've only had a 3G on the n87 and it had them on. I'm wondering if NICE put the announcements on the 1700s and 1800s.I have full on-board rides of the N87 in both directions: To Jones Beach: To Hicksville: |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jul 1 06:22:56 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by hound on Wed Jun 26 00:13:52 2013. Yes, Mid Island ran to JB on today's N80. They also ran a route from Walt Whitman Shopping Center. Jerusalem Avenue ran a route on today's N51 and a route from Massapequa Park. (They used to run the Massapequa loop.) |
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Posted by hound on Tue Jul 2 01:20:20 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jul 1 06:22:56 2013. Yes, I remember that. Do you know what other routes ran to JB by Mid-Island? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jul 2 09:47:24 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by hound on Tue Jul 2 01:20:20 2013. Those are the only routes I remember. They couldn't run anything from Hempstead because other companies had the routes. JB routes were just extensions of regular routes. |
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Posted by hound on Wed Jul 3 01:01:33 2013, in response to Re: N87 Jones Beach to Hicksville, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jul 2 09:47:24 2013. Hempstead Bus ran from Hicksville down Newbridge Rd, & Jerusalem Ave Bus ran from East Meadow & Merrick. |
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