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Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri May 17 17:19:20 2013

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Came back yesterday following a 10 day vacation there with a few questions and observations.

I rode 2 (TMC) RTS' during my stay. I would estimate they have about 15 survivors. The lowest fleet # I saw was 4726, the highest was 4810. All their buses have a long service day, although the roads are in good shape and the operating conditions are easy in regards to traffic, but the w/c lifts are used quite often.

They have a lot of NOVA LFS' from 2004 and perhaps even earlier wihich look a lot like the Orion VI with the back window on the left. They also have some from 2010. A few buses have ramps rather than steps going up to the rear, I guess the older ones. One old Nova, IIRC #4842, had a unique red paint scheme.

I would think the total fleet of buses is over 300. Roster anyone?

They have a bunch of Gilligs from 2011 and 2012, quite frankly they run good. But I just don't trust them for the big city.

The buses, except for the RTS' just don't have very much room and the service levels are disappointing. Heaven forbid you are caught in a peak period when Magic Kingdom or Epcot lets out.

Artics would be nice!

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Fri May 17 18:04:21 2013, in response to Walt Disney World Buses, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri May 17 17:19:20 2013.

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I estimate about 80 or more of the RTS are still in service. 4726 maybe the oldest bus in the fleet (it's a 1988). The 2012 Gilligs are in large numbers from what I saw earlier this month.

The bus fleet is likely higher then 300, since they got 50+ new Gilligs last year, but the fleet remained the same, so they likely expanded the fleet last year. I heard they were going to order artics from Nova, but I have not heard anything else.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by grand concourse on Fri May 17 18:07:25 2013, in response to Walt Disney World Buses, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri May 17 17:19:20 2013.

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Good to know there are some RTSs still running. I agree about the need for artics there.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by NorthShore on Fri May 17 21:28:34 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by CJ on Fri May 17 18:04:21 2013.

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I was there in 2005, and they had Gilligs back then.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by MTA T on Fri May 17 21:59:46 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by CJ on Fri May 17 18:04:21 2013.

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Wow... those TMC RTS-06s are still not retiring? Quite impressive!

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Fri May 17 23:19:35 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by NorthShore on Fri May 17 21:28:34 2013.

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Yeah. The newer ones are the most common types to see compared to the 2004s and 2005s. I always see 2004s and 2005s numerous times when I go over there.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Fri May 17 23:20:11 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by MTA T on Fri May 17 21:59:46 2013.

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For now. I heard they maybe retiring them this year.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 23:33:40 2013, in response to Walt Disney World Buses, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri May 17 17:19:20 2013.

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Do they have schedules?

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 18 00:09:19 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 23:33:40 2013.

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No.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by caine515 on Sat May 18 08:22:21 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 23:33:40 2013.

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The first trips are about 7am or so from the respective hotel areas. I was there in May of 2005. I stayed at New Orleans. The first bus was 7am to magic kingdom. The last bus is whatever time the show ends at magic kingdom back to the hotel(normally 11pm)-they make sure nobody is left behind at the places.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Sat May 18 15:49:12 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by CJ on Fri May 17 18:04:21 2013.

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The only thing I know of about artics is that Lynx will be getting Nova artics very shortly. If Disney plans on buying some for it's fleet it will be an interesting year.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by NorthShore on Sat May 18 16:25:09 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by CJ on Sat May 18 15:49:12 2013.

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Lynx already has NABI BRT artics.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 18 17:34:22 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by NorthShore on Sat May 18 16:25:09 2013.

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No artics seen from any company during my stay.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by NorthShore on Sat May 18 17:41:19 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 18 17:34:22 2013.

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Lynx has 2 NABI BRT's in their fleet.
You must have missed them.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Sat May 18 19:15:51 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by NorthShore on Sat May 18 16:25:09 2013.

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Yep. Lynx also has four D60s in their fleet as well. Once the Novas arrive the fleet of artics will total 10 buses.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by Grand concourse on Sat May 18 20:54:12 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by NorthShore on Sat May 18 17:41:19 2013.

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But aren't they for select lines? Or are they available to any line?

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Sat May 18 21:01:24 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by Grand concourse on Sat May 18 20:54:12 2013.

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They are available on the 4 and 50 routes. The 4 heads all the way to Kissimmee, while the 50 heads to the ticket center near Magic Kingdom at Disney.

I did see a D60 (136-698) on the 301, which I saw at Downtown Disney. The route terminates in Pine Hills. The Link 300-305 routes operate during the morning and afternoon rush to Downtown Disney, so they do have articulated buses used on those routes along with Gillig BRTs and Phantoms.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by Grand concourse on Sat May 18 21:19:31 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by CJ on Sat May 18 21:01:24 2013.

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I see, thanks. Since i'm driving in that area, i generally don't see those routes as much or notice them.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by RailBus63 on Sat May 18 22:07:31 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by BusRider on Fri May 17 23:33:40 2013.

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They use a specialized dispatch system to monitor demand and move buses to where they are needed. Drivers don't have scheduled runs, but instead go where they are directed to.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by 167t on Sun May 19 12:32:08 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by CJ on Sat May 18 21:01:24 2013.

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Crime Hills?

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Sun May 19 13:51:13 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by 167t on Sun May 19 12:32:08 2013.

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Yep.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by 167t on Sun May 19 17:49:33 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by grand concourse on Fri May 17 18:07:25 2013.

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If you are taller than 5'6", you don't to be in the drivers seat of an old RTS. They are horribly cramped and no room for your left leg!

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Sun May 19 18:52:27 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by 167t on Sun May 19 17:49:33 2013.

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Only the GMCs or the TMCs? What about the Nova built RTS?

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by 167t on Sun May 19 19:59:48 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by CJ on Sun May 19 18:52:27 2013.

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I don't know about the Nova-builts. The original (not slopes, although the original Tri-County Transit, now Lynx, had three!!)GMC's were not comfortable at all. When I worked for Rockland Coaches, now CoachUSA, they had a bunch that were owned by Rockland County NY. I'm 6'2"

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun May 19 21:28:09 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by 167t on Sun May 19 17:49:33 2013.

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Well not to drive one, but i like the Rts and fishbowls.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Mon May 20 00:24:30 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by 167t on Sun May 19 19:59:48 2013.

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I discovered they bought used ones during the late 1980s. The ones they had new was 501-503. The ones they bought came from Fayetteville, NC. So far 516-518 were the only other RTS on Lynx's fleet. Here are pictures of 516 and 518. These are 1978s and were taken by Flickr user mbernero


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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Mon May 20 00:26:46 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by Grand concourse on Sun May 19 21:28:09 2013.

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I remembered a while ago, riding on a fishbowl owned by Lynx. They were Ex-Houston Metro units with air conditioning.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by Grand concourse on Mon May 20 02:16:03 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by CJ on Mon May 20 00:26:46 2013.

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How long ago was that? Nice.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by CJ on Mon May 20 03:37:22 2013, in response to Re: Walt Disney World Buses, posted by Grand concourse on Mon May 20 02:16:03 2013.

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1995-1996. There was only 10 of them and they were retired in 1997-1998 with the arrival of the Gillig Phantoms. They were retired along with the Neoplan artics, the 40 foot Neoplans, and the 35 foot Neoplans bought in 1985. Also retired was the RTS buses bought from Fayetteville, NC.

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Re: Walt Disney World Buses

Posted by HMD on Mon May 20 11:58:55 2013, in response to Walt Disney World Buses, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri May 17 17:19:20 2013.

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Over the past few months, various folks in Northern California have spotted new Gillig LFs leaving the vicinity of the Hayward plant bearing the red & silver paint scheme and REEDY CREEK on their headsigns.

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