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Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by mac5689 on Mon Aug 6 13:00:04 2012

Newsday is reporting in todays paper that the bus accident rate in Nassau has declined under Veolia.

They state that from Jan 1st 2012 to June 30th 2012, there have been 66 accidents. For the same time perod last year under the MTA there were 204 accidents.

They say that Veolia's increase in safty as the result.

Now I have no idea if any of if is true, I'm just reproting what they said.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Aug 6 13:01:20 2012, in response to Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mac5689 on Mon Aug 6 13:00:04 2012.

Wow...so now this is confusing as it totally contradicts previous news reports. *shrug*


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Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau)

Posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 6 15:25:24 2012, in response to Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mac5689 on Mon Aug 6 13:00:04 2012.

The rate of accidents on Nassau buses went down by 60 percent in the first six months that Veolia Transportation operated the bus system as compared with the same period last year, Veolia and MTA records show.

While the Metropolitan Transportation Authority says that severe weather early in 2011 played a role, NICE chief executive Michael Setzer said the drop has more to do with Veolia's increased focus on safety.

From January through June 2012, NICE buses were involved in 1.35 accidents for every 100,000 miles they were on the road, according to Veolia figures. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority had an accident rate of 3.36 per 100,000 miles in the first six months of 2011, according to its figures.

The MTA operated Nassau's bus system from 1973 until Dec. 31 of last year.

Transportation consultant Dennis McNeill, of Thousand Oaks, Calif., said that comparing a full year of service, rather than six months, would give a better picture of both agencies' accident rates.

Veolia and MTA officials say their data for the first six months of the year take into account every incident of a bus coming in contact with another object, including minor brushes with utility poles or clipping a car's side-view mirror.

MTA spokesman Kevin Ortiz said the agency's figures should be mitigated by the severe weather in the first two months of 2011 as compared with the mild weather early this year. In addition, Ortiz said, there were more buses driving more routes.

"There are different factors involved -- one being that buses last year traveled more than a million more miles than NICE due to the fact that we provided more service," Ortiz said.

Setzer said that the difference in miles traveled between MTA Long Island Bus and NICE should not affect the accident rate. He acknowledged that snow and icy roads early in 2011 would have contributed to more accidents, but not enough to account for the disparity between the two agencies' accident rates.

"When the weather is bad, I wouldn't be shocked at a small uptick in the number of accidents, but nothing of this scale," Setzer said. "I think part of it is that our approach to safety is probably more intense. For private companies, safety is a bottom-line issue."

Setzer said NICE's accident rate factors into its insurance costs and also is an important indicator of managers' performance. To that end, Setzer said, employees attend hourlong training meetings each month.

NICE officials said the company also has improved maintenance on its fleet of 300 buses, which, unlike the MTA, are subject to regular state Department of Transportation inspections.

McNeill disputed Setzer's assertion that the 1.17 million more miles that the MTA traveled as compared with NICE was statistically irrelevant.

"If you drive more miles, you're going to spend more hours exposed to hazards," said McNeill, who has worked in the bus industry for 40 years. "A bus that's in the garage is not going to have an accident."

Independent figures compiled by the Federal Transit Administration also show NICE has reduced the number of bus accidents in the first five months of 2012.

According to the FTA's National Transit Database, which considers only major bus collisions, MTA Long Island Bus averaged five accidents per month from January until May, compared with 2.17 for NICE.

Nationally, public transportation agencies averaged 0.37 accidents a month in 2011, according to the database.

Pat Bowden, president of the Transport Workers Union Local 252, which represents NICE drivers, said she's skeptical of the figures and has observed a more frequent occurrence of accidents among drivers since Veolia took over, especially among inexperienced drivers.

Setzer noted that most of NICE's drivers were brought over from MTA Long Island Bus. He added that the accident rate for new drivers, who had to undergo 140 hours of training, is slightly lower than that of former MTA bus operators.

County Executive Edward Mangano, who pushed for privatization of Nassau's bus system last year, said in a statement that NICE has "truly proven to be a more safe, affordable and reliable option for Nassau County residents."
---newsday

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Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau)

Posted by petabread2 on Mon Aug 6 15:29:50 2012, in response to Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau), posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 6 15:25:24 2012.

Safe? Someone tell them to check their steering columns. Affordable sure, reliable, waited an hour the N6 yesterday.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:13:32 2012, in response to Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mac5689 on Mon Aug 6 13:00:04 2012.

That's a FUCKING LIE!!! They have had 436 accidents year to date.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:14:15 2012, in response to Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mac5689 on Mon Aug 6 13:00:04 2012.

I was told that by one of their "SQM's"

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Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau)

Posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:16:19 2012, in response to Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau), posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 6 15:25:24 2012.

NICE has 436 accidents year to date. Don't be fooled.

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Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau)

Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Aug 6 17:39:04 2012, in response to Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau), posted by petabread2 on Mon Aug 6 15:29:50 2012.

Affordable sure, reliable, waited an hour the N6 yesterday.

An HOUR? Heck, ya can't have many accidents if you're not running any buses!


STILL
LOL@NASSAU NUMBER CRUNCHERS

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Aug 6 17:41:19 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:14:15 2012.

I was told that by one of their "SQM's"

SQM? Supposed Quality Managers?

STILL
LOL@MTA AND OTHERS ABBREVIATIONS

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Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau)

Posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 6 18:00:45 2012, in response to Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau), posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:16:19 2012.

Does that change anything?

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Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau)

Posted by Queens Surface 295 on Mon Aug 6 18:00:53 2012, in response to Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau), posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Aug 6 15:25:24 2012.

I want to see how NICE does during the next blizzard, I bet accidents will go up 60%!

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 6 18:03:12 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:14:15 2012.

And you and he had permission from NICE to publicly post that info?

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Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau)

Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Aug 6 19:47:21 2012, in response to Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau), posted by Queens Surface 295 on Mon Aug 6 18:00:53 2012.

Lol!

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Charles G on Tue Aug 7 03:22:44 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:13:32 2012.

That would be about 2 accidents per day, which seems unlikely.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Aug 7 06:18:32 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 6 18:03:12 2012.

Bump.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Aug 7 12:22:48 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 6 18:03:12 2012.

Bump.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by futurekbarticop on Tue Aug 7 15:00:39 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Aug 6 17:41:19 2012.

They changed the title name from Surface Line Dispatcher to Service Quality Mangager. He said they have WAY more accidents under NICE and more than ever before.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by TERRapin station on Tue Aug 7 12:22:48 2012.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Traits and signs

Thomas suggests that narcissists typically display most, sometimes all, of the following traits:
  • An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
  • Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
  • A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic)
  • Difficulty with empathy
  • Problems distinguishing the self from others (see narcissism and boundaries)
  • Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury)
  • Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
  • Haughty body language
  • Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them (narcissistic supply)
  • Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
  • Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
  • Pretending to be more important than they really are
  • Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
  • Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
  • Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
  • Denial of remorse and gratitude

Hotchkiss' Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism

Hotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:

  • Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
  • Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
  • Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
  • Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person's ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.
  • Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an "awkward" or "difficult" person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
  • Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
  • Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other

Aggressive Narcissism

This is Factor 1 in the Hare Psychopathy Checklist, which includes the following traits:
  • Glibness/superficial charm
  • Grandiose sense of self-worth
  • Pathological lying
  • Cunning/manipulative
  • Lack of remorse or guilt
  • Callous/lack of empathy
  • Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Source: Narcissism

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by lrG5784 on Tue Aug 7 15:18:44 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012.

Lmfao

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by CJ on Tue Aug 7 15:55:17 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012.

LOL!

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Aug 7 15:56:56 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012.

Great post. I shall copy/paste/save for the future.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Tue Aug 7 18:00:40 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012.

Describes the Turtle down to a 'T', thanks for the info! LOL!

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Aug 7 18:29:54 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mcorivervsaf on Tue Aug 7 18:00:40 2012.

When the Turtle visits his psychologist, or other mental doctor, and asks the Turtle what is the problem or actually problems, all the T has to do is hand the doctor a printout of this list.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Tue Aug 7 18:58:43 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Aug 7 18:29:54 2012.

The doctor might declare him clinically insane, and send him to Bellevue! You might want to copy that list, before said Turtle throws another hissy fit up here!

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Aug 7 19:19:37 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mcorivervsaf on Tue Aug 7 18:58:43 2012.

Already have! And anyone could always request another one be posted.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 7 19:32:55 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012.

+1

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by hound on Tue Aug 7 23:03:07 2012, in response to Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mac5689 on Mon Aug 6 13:00:04 2012.

Absolute bullshit-just like everything else Veolia says about how great things are.They don't tell you about all the talented new drivers they're hiring-like the one who drove around for 5 hours trying to find Long Beach coming from the depot.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Aug 7 23:05:22 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by hound on Tue Aug 7 23:03:07 2012.

lol

good one!


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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by hound on Tue Aug 7 23:05:46 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:13:32 2012.

Are you sure that's all?

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Gamera on Wed Aug 8 00:09:42 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012.

AWESOME POST!



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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 8 08:41:20 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 6 18:03:12 2012.

Bump.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 8 08:48:33 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by futurekbarticop on Mon Aug 6 16:13:32 2012.

So what's correct? The official company line or the second hand information?

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 09:56:52 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012.

You folks now see something isn't right in that head?

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 8 10:37:50 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by JayDee on Tue Aug 7 15:04:27 2012.

An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges - YES
Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships - YES
A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic) - YES
Difficulty with empathy - YES
Problems distinguishing the self from others (see narcissism and boundaries) - YES
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury) - HECK YES
Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt - UNKNOWN
Haughty body language - UNKNOWN
Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them (narcissistic supply) - UNKNOWN (Have to find someone who admires/affirms him)
Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse) - VERY MUCH SO
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so - UNKNOWN (need to have relationship with someone in order to use them)
Pretending to be more important than they really are - YES
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements - MOST DEFINITELY
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things - YES (even if real expertise is only limited to mailroom operations)
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people - YES
Denial of remorse and gratitude - YES

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 10:59:57 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 8 10:37:50 2012.

Pretending to be more important than they really are - YES

HAD to put that in Bold

Spot on with that...

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 8 12:06:40 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 8 08:48:33 2012.

Bump.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 8 12:06:54 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 6 18:03:12 2012.

Bump.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 12:13:25 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 10:59:57 2012.

Bump

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 12:15:08 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 12:13:25 2012.

I like Fishing..

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by CJ on Wed Aug 8 12:28:53 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 8 10:37:50 2012.

Claiming to be an "expert" at many things - YES (even if real expertise is only limited to mailroom operations)


This is the one that really gets me the most. I laughed at the BS information he comes up with in the threads.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 8 12:46:47 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by CJ on Wed Aug 8 12:28:53 2012.

So it is your expert opinion that a mail room worker can not be an expert on anything besides mail room operations? Yes or no?

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by CJ on Wed Aug 8 12:49:22 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 8 12:46:47 2012.

I think you can answer that question on your own.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 12:52:08 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by CJ on Wed Aug 8 12:49:22 2012.

He cant even GET a Job down here hows that for sorry?

LOL @ the Ivy League Education...

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by CJ on Wed Aug 8 12:53:45 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 12:52:08 2012.

Well that's shit out of luck for him.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 13:01:00 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by CJ on Wed Aug 8 12:53:45 2012.

Yup his loss,its not everyday where you get a chance to work a job in a field you enjoy..

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Aug 8 13:02:32 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 13:01:00 2012.

Damn you - leave the man alone! How many people, if this is really his job, have the pleasure of opening envelopes and licking stamps each day. Of course, I don't really believe he works in a mailroom..... In my opinion, it's all an act.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by CJ on Wed Aug 8 13:08:38 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Aug 8 13:02:32 2012.

Of course, I don't really believe he works in a mailroom..... In my opinion, it's all an act.




I've been questioning whether he has even stepped foot in a mailroom at all to begin with.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 8 13:08:54 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Aug 8 13:02:32 2012.

Of course, I don't really believe he works in a mailroom..... In my opinion, it's all an act.

Yep...

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Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau)

Posted by TheHat on Wed Aug 8 20:06:43 2012, in response to Re: Nassau bus accidents drop 60% under Veolia (Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau), posted by TERRapin station on Mon Aug 6 18:00:45 2012.

Yes, they may have changed or mis-classified accidents or incidents(intentional on-purpose). In the MTA a passenger fall is classified as an accident, it is possible tht NICE classifies that as an incident, that alone will fluff the numbers.

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Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau

Posted by TheHat on Wed Aug 8 20:14:12 2012, in response to Re: Newsday reports that Bus Accidents are DOWN in Nassau, posted by hound on Tue Aug 7 23:03:07 2012.

yep, and I say about bullshit & horseshit, it's bad for ya! Just like NICE it's bullshit & horseshit and it's bad for ya.

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