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Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 12:09:35 2012 edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Orion assigns FTA-funded New York City transit contract for 74 CNG buses to New Flyer New Flyer Industries Inc. NFI.UN 7/26/2012 10:28:00 AM Orion assigns FTA-funded New York City transit contract for 74 CNG buses to New Flyer WINNIPEG, July 26, 2012 /CNW/ - (TSX:NFI, TSX:NFI.UN, TSX:NFI.DB.U) New Flyer Industries Inc. ("New Flyer" or the "Company"), the leading manufacturer of heavy-duty transit buses in Canada and the United States, announced today that Daimler Buses North America, Inc ("DBNA"), has assigned to New Flyer its contract with New York City Transit Authority and the MTA Bus Company (together, "NYCT") to build 74 heavy-duty 40-foot CNG buses. The contract includes an additional 30 option buses that will not be ordered at this time. This assignment is a result of DBNA's decision announced on April 25, 2012 to exit production of heavy duty transit buses for the US and Canadian markets. The base order for the assigned US Federal Transit Administration funded contract (74 buses) will commence production in August 2012, all of which are expected to be delivered to NYCT by the end of the year. Final assembly of these buses will take place in New Flyer's Crookston, Minnesota facility. The buses will be virtually identical to New Flyer's existing contract with NYCT for 385 buses currently in production. This contract assignment further extends the long standing partnership between New Flyer and NYCT by providing a proven and reliable product, supported by New Flyer warranty, service and lifetime customer care. "Delivering to NYCT requirements was our top priority," said Paul Soubry, New Flyer's President and Chief Executive Officer. "We are pleased that we could react so quickly due to DBNA's transition plan with a solution that met NYCT needs by continuing the build of our current bus production run." This assigned contact was part of the group of orders for 483 new buses (613 equivalent units or "EUs") and options for 40 buses (60 EUs) noted in the New Flyer press release of July 16, 2012 as pending from a number of customers where approval had been granted by the customer's board, council, or commission, as appropriate, but purchase documentation had not yet been received by the Company and therefore not yet included in the backlog. ---http://www.stockhouse.com/News/CanadianReleasesDetail.aspx?n=8573552
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 12:34:27 2012, in response to Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 12:09:35 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Wow - perhaps this is related to the labor issues at the Mississauga plant. I wonder if this will impact Orion's orders for CNYRTA and NICE?
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 26 12:52:30 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 12:34:27 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Also could be the TA doesn't want another oddball fleet, with all these 90 bus orders there's several of them.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 26 12:57:13 2012, in response to Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 12:09:35 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d SC and CP will have one type of bus model for the next 12 - 15 years, crazy. Only two CNG fleets overall once its all said and done, the C40LF and the OG Orions in JG and WF.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 12:57:48 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 26 12:52:30 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It maybe the best decision by Orion. :)
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 13:09:21 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 26 12:57:13 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Too bad - the new O7 CNG's would have been a nice splash of variety in a sea of C40LF's.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 13:11:45 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 13:09:21 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d its going to be ole so boring now.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by mike nash on Thu Jul 26 13:16:10 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 13:09:21 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d how about the replacements of 7560-7819 do in the next few years.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 13:36:08 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by mike nash on Thu Jul 26 13:16:10 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Well, those buses have longer life span on the CNG tanks. We wont see them replace in 5 to 8 years down the road. It would be better if they replace the garbage DD50G engine to Cummins Westport ISL G engine.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Joe on Thu Jul 26 14:38:33 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 13:36:08 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Does this item from Long Island Business News add any information? ---- Link Here
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 16:22:46 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Joe on Thu Jul 26 14:38:33 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Its been mention many times since the beginning of the year. NICE bus will get 40+ Orion VII CNG buses. Now we know the timeline, thanks for the link.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 26 16:54:59 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Joe on Thu Jul 26 14:38:33 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The buses to replaced are at least 12 years old and have more than 500,000 miles on them. Do similar 12 year old CNG buses at NYCT have the same amount of miles logged on their odometers as NICE ? Bill Newkirk
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 17:00:28 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 26 16:54:59 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d haha, no. 300,000 miles+ and retired. http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=263778
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Jan 6109 on Thu Jul 26 17:18:56 2012, in response to Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 26 12:09:35 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I saw some shells recently at Mississauga, of CNG Orion VII painted blue... hmm...
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu Jul 26 20:41:10 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 26 12:57:13 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Honestly that is nothing new, FP, UP, ENY, and FLA had all RTS fleets for a long time. 100th also had 100% D60HF for a couple of years. SC only has like 60 local buses. Not really deserving of bus variety. CP has enough local buses to justify more than one bus type.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 26 21:24:03 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu Jul 26 20:41:10 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Wow...you've got REAL issues.. Were you a bad kid? you always speak of who "deserves" what equipment on what route..like we are on the "honor system"["if you behave..then you MIGHT get to ride a NEW BUS...!"] RIDICULOUS.. You need to change your thinking...and remember the crap we us to ride.and MOST OF ALL..stop trying to punish US like YOU were punished.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 26 23:49:33 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 13:09:21 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d This may be a good thing though---having to maintain only 2 types of CNG buses.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 26 23:50:41 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by mike nash on Thu Jul 26 13:16:10 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d On tanks, those buses should be able to go to 2021 or 2022, although a replacement order will have to be made by 2019. The tanks on those buses should be Tier 2 certified (for 20 years).
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 26 23:58:59 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Joe on Thu Jul 26 14:38:33 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Not an MTA problem anymore....
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 27 00:03:13 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 12:34:27 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d from the way it was first presented...it looked like N/F was building ORION 73G models for ORION to ship to the MTA!
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by Hank EisenStein on Fri Jul 27 00:48:54 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 12:34:27 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Perhaps it's related to DAIMLER BUSES NORTH AMERICA'S DECISION TO EXIT THE HEAVY PRODUCTION OF HEAVY DUTY TRANSIT BUSES, as clearly stated in the press release.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Fri Jul 27 02:30:09 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 26 21:24:03 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yawn!
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by ctrabs74 on Fri Jul 27 08:59:59 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by Hank EisenStein on Fri Jul 27 00:48:54 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I think what he was getting at was the original word from Orion was that Orion would fulfill the MTA order.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jul 27 09:00:50 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jul 26 13:09:21 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Agreed. I'm not much of a New Flyer fan. Hopefully Nova comes to the CNG market soon so we won't have to order solely from New Flyer for CNG buses now.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jul 27 12:43:36 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jul 27 09:00:50 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Nova is indeed working on a CNG version of the LFS.
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jul 27 13:45:27 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jul 27 12:43:36 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yes!!!
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 27 18:32:07 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 26 12:57:13 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Wasn't there a time when the entire NYCTA and MaBSTOA fleet consisted of GMC Fishbowls and Flxible Fishbowls?
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Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced
Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jul 27 20:19:02 2012, in response to Re: Breaking News: MTA Bus 74 Orion VII CNG contract cancelled, New Flyer will produced, posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 27 18:32:07 2012. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Wasn't there a time when the entire NYCTA and MaBSTOA fleet consisted of GMC Fishbowls and Flxible Fishbowls? Ye, between the retirement of the last Old Look buses and the introduction of the Grumman-Flxible 870's.
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