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S89 - The final frontier

Posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jul 24 01:19:50 2012

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With the MTA lately focusing on new markets, I am surprise that in Staten Island there isn't more developments with interstate routes like the S89 which gave SIers an alternative way to Manhattan and Jersey City while we at it. The question is do you think the S89 experiment is the last of any service to/from NJ? Also is the S 89 a failure to a certain degree? (operating during rush hours only and no off peak service was never introduce now or before doomsday)

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 24 06:56:59 2012, in response to S89 - The final frontier, posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jul 24 01:19:50 2012.

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there should be some midday service..evening service to about 8pm...

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 24 07:17:18 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 24 06:56:59 2012.

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since there is a new mall in bayonne it might do business.

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jul 24 08:53:11 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 24 07:17:18 2012.

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IMO, any interstate service should be desighned with commuters in mind, not shoppers.

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jul 24 09:24:16 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jul 24 08:53:11 2012.

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IMO, any interstate service should be desighned with commuters in mind, not shoppers.

People work in malls.

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by Flxible4life on Tue Jul 24 12:06:32 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jul 24 09:24:16 2012.

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Jobs!

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jul 24 13:25:33 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by Flxible4life on Tue Jul 24 12:06:32 2012.

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Overall there is a job market in the Bayonne and Jersey City, but to have no midday service (at least) introduced is a bit surprising. Especially with this regine. It seems people forgot about this route...

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Tue Jul 24 23:52:04 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 24 07:17:18 2012.

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agreed, there's a walmart & sonic at the mall down the street from the last stop on the s89. Maybe that is a good opportunity for the MTA to make some extra revenue.

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by hound on Wed Jul 25 01:08:17 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Tue Jul 24 23:52:04 2012.

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They need to implement an additional stop or 2 along Rt. 440 for the convenience of workers & shoppers,instead of running closed-door to the HBLR. Unless there is a restriction by NJT or NJDOT,this could help increase ridership.

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by mci guy on Wed Jul 25 07:14:05 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by hound on Wed Jul 25 01:08:17 2012.

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i believe there is such a restriction.

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Jul 25 10:59:09 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by mci guy on Wed Jul 25 07:14:05 2012.

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Not only that, but the MTA, an agency funded in part by sales taxes in NYC and it's immediate suburbs, isn't going to run a line to bring SHOPPERS to another state, where their sales taxes DON'T support them. Not to mention the local businesses on Staten Island being up in arms about what would essentially be a subsidy to a New Jersey shopping center.

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by Flxible4life on Wed Jul 25 20:28:15 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Jul 25 10:59:09 2012.

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It's been happening over a decade or so before my friend. Staten Islanders who commute to Jersey City to work do shop here in New Jersey. Have you heard of "Newport Mall" and area stores, such as Target and Staples around it? All the workers have to do is hop on the HBLR to Newport Mall station. There goes New York City tax dollars feeding it into New Jersey (Jersey City).

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Re: S89 - The final frontier

Posted by Hank EisenStein on Wed Jul 25 20:48:17 2012, in response to Re: S89 - The final frontier, posted by Flxible4life on Wed Jul 25 20:28:15 2012.

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They work there, they shop there. That's not running a bus for the PURPOSE of bringing shoppers to the plaza. Unlike the other four boros, the majority of Staten Islanders own cars, and they're not going to lug their purchases home on the HBLR and bus.

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