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Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jul 17 16:24:13 2012

ASTORIA — After massive subway and bus service cuts two years ago, Western Queens residents have been forced to deal with fewer transit options, making their commutes to work longer and more inconvenient, state Sen. Michael Gianaris says.

Now, following reports of MTA service restorations throughout the city, including a permanent extension of the G train, the pol wants to make sure that Queens will get its fair share as well.

On Monday, the Gianaris sent a letter to MTA Chairman Joseph Lhota requesting that the W train and QM22 express bus to be returned to service.

In 2010 — in order to close a vast budget gap — the MTA eliminated two subway lines, the W and the V, and 34 bus lines. Dozens of other bus routes were shortened.

Both the W line and the QM22 were among services that were eliminated.

“Recent transit cuts have been a burden on western Queens residents, who rely heavily on mass transit to get to and from work every day,” Gianaris said.

According to the Daily News report, the MTA is looking to restore services primarily in Brooklyn and in The Bronx.

“While it is nice to hear the MTA speak of restorations, service improvements must include Queens, which has suffered as much as any borough due to recent cutbacks,” Gianaris noted.

MTA officials said Tuesday morning they could not comment of the letter because they had not seen it yet.

They would also neither confirm nor deny that any of the service restorations would take place.

--- http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120717/astoria/bring-back-w-train-astoria-pol-says#ixzz20uVNTzFO

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Tue Jul 17 17:36:51 2012, in response to Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jul 17 16:24:13 2012.

Really? The QM22? It would be cheaper to hand out daily taxi vouchers to the dozen or so people who ever rode that waste of a bus.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jul 19 02:04:20 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Tue Jul 17 17:36:51 2012.

The direct operating cost per passenger was actually about $13. Bad, but not terrible.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by B49 Limited on Thu Jul 19 02:42:34 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jul 19 02:04:20 2012.

Question do people along 21 St use the QM 22 in the past?

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by merrick1 on Thu Jul 19 22:38:01 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by B49 Limited on Thu Jul 19 02:42:34 2012.

I lived at 21st Street and 22nd Drive about 15 years ago and there were always people getting on the QM22 at 22nd Drive. The bus seemed to have a reasonable load in the morning. I don't know how many people used it in the afternoon. There were only 2 buses in the morning (one for 3rd Avenue and one for 6th Avenue)

If you could use the buses and drivers for other routes the rest of the day or if you used part time drivers you might be able to make a route like this work.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Jul 20 05:31:15 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by merrick1 on Thu Jul 19 22:38:01 2012.


[...or if you used part time drivers....]


You won't make any TWU friends with a comment like that.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 20 09:00:16 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Jul 20 05:31:15 2012.

Why is the TWU so adamantly opposed to part-timers? As long as it wouldn't affect anyone who is currently employed I don't see the issue.

In Boston the Carmen's Union fought against part-timers and lost. Now part-time bus operator or train attendant is the entry level job. You have to put in a few years as a part-timer before you can move up to full-time.

Part-timers are members of the union so the union still gets its dues.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by Outside the Box on Fri Jul 20 14:45:30 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jul 19 02:04:20 2012.

How about a commuter operated CO-OP van pool?

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 16:46:10 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 20 09:00:16 2012.

A part timer cannot support his family.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by merrick1 on Sat Jul 21 17:29:05 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 16:46:10 2012.

Most people starting out their careers don't have families to support.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 18:38:12 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by merrick1 on Sat Jul 21 17:29:05 2012.

What about a person who is making a career change?


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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by B1bus on Sat Jul 21 21:44:05 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 21 16:46:10 2012.

Drive the bus to the city, park it, go to work, drive it back.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Jul 22 00:25:01 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Jul 20 05:31:15 2012.

Technically, this would be an ATU issue (not sure which local, though) as ATU represents MTA operators in Queens, IINM. That said, as good of an idea as it is, the unions would never allow it.

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Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sun Jul 22 12:33:44 2012, in response to Re: Bring Back the (QM22 bus); Astoria Pol Says, posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Jul 22 00:25:01 2012.

[Technically, this would be an ATU issue (not sure which local, though) as ATU represents MTA operators in Queens, IINM.]


Not quite...

ATU-1056: Casey Stengel, Jamaica, Queens Village

ATU-1179: JFK, Far Rockaway

TWU-100: College Point, LaGuardia, Baisley Park


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