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Posted by Mr.Broadway on Sun Jul 15 21:57:31 2012, in response to Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by LRG5784 on Sun Jul 15 21:20:30 2012. Really? Why would they do that and not just continue on to 1291-1600s Those slots are open. It makes no sense to me. In my opinion. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 15 22:00:59 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by Mr.Broadway on Sun Jul 15 21:57:31 2012. From 1290, it's open all the way to 2039. However, the next big rigid order may take up part of that series (even though 8090-8749 is open except for 2 numbers---8319 and 8571). |
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Posted by Mr.Broadway on Sun Jul 15 22:14:28 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 15 22:00:59 2012. Then they should number them 7100s 6906-7399 is open as well. |
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Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Mon Jul 16 00:12:51 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by Mr.Broadway on Sun Jul 15 22:14:28 2012. 7000-7089 are Orion VII Diesels |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Jul 16 00:22:11 2012, in response to Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by LRG5784 on Sun Jul 15 21:20:30 2012. Great, yet ANOTHER unnecessary MTA bus renumbering! Why can't the MTA just renumber the Nova's into the 9700's? It seems pointless to renumber a fleet that's likely going to be retired in about 5 years or so! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 16 05:13:24 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Jul 16 00:22:11 2012. Because they have to think about the future. If the new Nova's are numbered in the 9700 series, then after the current beese in the 9000 series are all scrapped within the next few years, then 9700 is taken up with all the others open numerically.When some of you guys grow up you can take the test, get promotions into high places, then start making decisions like this! |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Jul 16 06:01:24 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 16 05:13:24 2012. That's a huge lack of foresight. What a shame. :( |
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Posted by merrick1 on Mon Jul 16 07:01:27 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Jul 16 06:01:24 2012. I doubt if it's a significant expense. |
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Posted by mike nash on Mon Jul 16 08:29:05 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by Mr.Broadway on Sun Jul 15 21:57:31 2012. 7100-7559 are cuurrently avail so why not renumber 4902-5249 to 7300-7259. so then you would have 4900-5509 and eventualy by(2015)5769 . |
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Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Mon Jul 16 08:36:34 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by mike nash on Mon Jul 16 08:29:05 2012. There are still the 74XX ex NYBS MCI Cruisers |
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Posted by mike nash on Mon Jul 16 10:25:09 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Mon Jul 16 08:36:34 2012. re# 900-905 |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 16 18:01:32 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Jul 16 06:01:24 2012. No it's not. There are a lot of buses in NYC and there are only 9999 road numbers available.It makes a lot of sense to me. By changing the 6 to a 9, all the 9000 buses are old, so in a few years that entire block of 1000 numbers will be available. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Jul 16 18:18:05 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 16 18:01:32 2012. Could the MTA ever use 10XXX series again like they did with the 93000-series Orion 5s when they were first introduced? |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Mon Jul 16 18:29:05 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by LRG5784 on Mon Jul 16 18:18:05 2012. No and the reason for that is the computers they are using (as what was told me) could not handle five digit numbers in the database. Hence, #93001-93096 to #101-196 and #93502-93053 to #8402-8403 (Yes, the TNMCs were like that too and there's a picture of one of them on someone's site.) |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Jul 16 18:39:24 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 16 18:01:32 2012. I get your point of view, Bill, I know why they're doing this, but I'm still a bit disgusted over this. There's other numbers they could have used, as noted by others here, but I liked those buses with their original fleet numbers. I think I get the gist of what the MTA is doing here. All of those buses are over a decade old, not going to be around after a few more years. When all of the Orion V's & Nova RTS's are finally retired with the 9xxx numbers, those numbers can be used for future fleets, without having to renumber OTHER buses in the current fleet. At least that's what I thought about all this... |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon Jul 16 20:07:33 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Jul 16 18:29:05 2012. [No and the reason for that is the computers they are using (as what was told me) could not handle five digit numbers in the database.] IIRC, that was intentional on the part of the programmer who set up that database. ("We don't currently use 5-digit fleet numbers, so I'll make sure the system can never allow them.") |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Jul 16 20:19:04 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Jul 16 18:29:05 2012. Yes, I did hear about some RTS' numbered in the 93000s as well.Thanks for the info. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Jul 16 20:27:18 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Jul 16 18:29:05 2012. Just saw a picture of those buses at UTC Saturday night. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Jul 16 20:29:59 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Jul 16 20:27:18 2012. You were there too? |
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Posted by Busdude on Mon Jul 16 21:27:35 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon Jul 16 20:07:33 2012. It probally wasent deliberate, it was probally more along the line, we have never used these in the past; and at the time have no reason to use them, so...Although if the system is that old mabye its time to upgrade the system? |
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Posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 17 07:27:44 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by LRG5784 on Mon Jul 16 20:19:04 2012. well in 1993 walking pass flatbush yard i did see those two. the rts were held o/s due to w/c issues. those two never saw service under those numbers. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Tue Jul 17 08:41:27 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 17 07:27:44 2012. I see, thanks. |
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Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Tue Jul 17 21:32:37 2012, in response to Re: Orion 5.501s to be renumbered, posted by mike nash on Mon Jul 16 10:25:09 2012. Why not 2925-2930? They would be in the right grouping then. |
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