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NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan

Posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 16 16:49:47 2012

Dirt cheap buses that take commuters from Queens to Manhattan are no more.

The Police Department nabbed four unlicensed charter buses last week for carrying commuters from downtown Flushing to Chinatown without a license.

Local business owners said the buses were a nuisance and were unfair to competitors, while a company official argued the buses offered a consumer-friendly alternative.

The unlicensed buses were “bad for the community,” said Dian Yu, executive director of the Downtown Flushing Transit Hub Business Improvement District. “It creates an unhealthy competition.”

The buses appeared on Main St. in downtown Flushing in mid-June, said Yu, the first buses he had seen of that size offering trips to Manhattan for $1 as opposed to the usual $2 to $3. Smaller van services, which carry 19 passengers or fewer, cannot compete with the price, Yu said.

New Oriental Tour Inc. was using the coach buses, which carry 37 to 61 passengers, to transport commuters for $1, said Julie Wang, 29, who identified herself as a partial owner and press secretary of the company.

After receiving numerous complaints from van drivers and pedestrians, City Councilman Peter Koo enlisted the help of the Department of Transportation and the Police Department. The agencies found that the buses were not properly licensed for inter-borough commercial use.

“I’m happy that the joint operation to remove these buses from city streets was successful,” said Koo (D-Flushing). “We will continue to monitor this situation to make sure the buses don’t return.”

The Police Department confiscated two of New Oriental’s buses in the 5th Precinct in Manhattan and two in 109th Precinct in Queens for “operating out of class,” police said.

During the sting, the Taxi and Limousine Commission also issued 31 minor violations to the company. It was fined $1,500 dollars per bus, said TLC spokesman Allan Fromberg.

Wang said the company owns 20 charter buses. She told the Daily News she did not know using the coach buses for inter-borough commercial travel was illegal, though she did admit to operating without a license.

“We are a legit business,” said Wang. “We’re trying to improve.”

Yu said the problems associated with cutthroat bus fares outweigh the benefits to commuters.

“We are working on reducing the traffic,” said Yu. “To have another bus line is not the way to go.”

--- http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/police-sting-shuts-1-bus-service-queens-manhattan-article-1.1115480#ixzz20ox3ZEXh

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Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jul 16 18:54:38 2012, in response to NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 16 16:49:47 2012.

This is sad; competition is good. Our leaders claim they support the "free market", but in practice they don't.

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Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Jul 16 22:23:41 2012, in response to Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jul 16 18:54:38 2012.

There is already plenty of competition on this line. Go to 41st St in Flushing and see what I mean.

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Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan

Posted by JAzumah on Tue Jul 17 06:34:23 2012, in response to NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 16 16:49:47 2012.

The Police Department confiscated two of New Oriental’s buses in the 5th Precinct in Manhattan and two in 109th Precinct in Queens for “operating out of class,” police said.

That is the wrong term. The only way the vehicles could be operating "out of class" is if the drivers don't have CDLs.

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Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jul 17 10:54:42 2012, in response to NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan, posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Jul 16 16:49:47 2012.

The unlicensed buses were “bad for the community,” s “It creates an unhealthy competition.” “We are working on reducing the traffic,” said Yu. “To have another bus line is not the way to go.”

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Cheap transportation is bad for the community. Lack of price fixing is unhealthy competition....or is it the issue of not paying the gov't fees that's the bad part?
Buses are bad for traffic congestion.

Did I interpret this right?

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Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan

Posted by JAzumah on Wed Jul 18 18:23:38 2012, in response to Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jul 17 10:54:42 2012.

Yes you did.

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Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 18:28:23 2012, in response to Re: NYPD sting shuts down $1 bus service from Queens to Manhattan, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jul 17 10:54:42 2012.

HMM..i WOULD SAY YOU'VE SUMMED IT UP CORRECTLY..



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