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Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal? |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jul 9 00:40:10 2012, in response to Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 8 18:07:38 2012. From my few detours into the airport, I can tell you the workers hate the setup. I have overhear several airport workers complain and are very concern during climate weather. I have not been there (don't want to be there for bad rainy or snowy days. For me I like the idea now that the Q 10 shares the same terminal with the Q 3 and B 15 instead of walking back or forth to these buses.In regards to mass transit coverage to/from the airport. I would have to say it is underutilized. There is no longer direct bus service from LI to the Airport, now that the low ridership JFK FLyer is gone, but I still think there was potential if given the right route. In terms of Queens to JFK. Here is what I think should happen 1) The Q 6 should have been the direct bus from Jamaica to JFK - Leffers Blvd Terminal via the Cargo Area. 2) Q3 should be the direct bus to the postal via Farmers Blvd and then following the Q 6 route east of North Boundry Rd. 3) A combine Q 76/77 route extended to JFK Central terminal via Conduit Blvd/Farmers Blvd/and following the Q 3 route southwest of Farmers Blvd. Why? To provide NE/ SE Queens a direct route to the airport. * I left the Q 7 out because I think that route can be rerouted to Green Acres, don't you think? In terms of Brooklyn/ Staten Island access to the airport, it is extremely poor in southern Brooklyn. Despite the fact that the B 15 does connect passengers to crosstown Brooklyn routes, B 6, B 8, B 35; it does take much longer for Staten Islander or even a Southwest Brooklyn rider to get to the airport compare to someone who is coming from Upper Manhattan. A new crosstown SBS or limited routes should be created to conenct Bay Ridge to JFK Airport, bad news is how would you route it (probably utilizing Linden Blvd, Flatlands Av, Kings Hwy, and Av P) and how would it be funded. |
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Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Jul 9 02:30:35 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jul 9 00:40:10 2012. I'm talking more for coach services heading up to New England, but any transit service could also be based out of there. |
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Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 9 09:03:54 2012, in response to Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 8 18:07:38 2012. It's a beautiful building that's basically laying dormant, unless jetBlue has finally begun using it? One or more RFQs have been issued for redeveloping the building into part of hotel. So assuming the PANYNJ is going forward with that idea, then it would seem the bus terminal idea would be a non-starter. Also, the "plan" was that the public would be able to walk through the building as a means of accessing the new Terminal 5. However AFAIK it has not yet been opened to the public for that purpose. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Mon Jul 9 10:37:29 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jul 9 00:40:10 2012. In terms of Brooklyn/ Staten Island access to the airport, it is extremely poor in southern Brooklyn.When it comes to Staten Island airport access, X1 or X10 to manhattan and all 3 airports can be accessed in some way. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Jul 9 13:58:46 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 9 09:03:54 2012. Using as it part of the jetBlue terminal would be fantastic. I was really disappointed when it wasn't incorporated in the initial opening.. |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Jul 9 13:59:45 2012, in response to Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 8 18:07:38 2012. a bus can't be competitive becuase it would have to use the Van Wyck, which is almost always clogged to high heaven. you'd have better luck dumping them off in Jamaica and givivng them $5 metrocards. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jul 9 14:34:45 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Jul 9 13:58:46 2012. Although great architecturally, it is totally inefficient by today's standards in terms of its use of space which made it impractical in the initial design of the new Terminal 5 |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jul 10 01:45:13 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by The Silence on Mon Jul 9 13:59:45 2012. What's it competing with? |
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Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 10 08:34:55 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jul 9 14:34:45 2012. Although great architecturally, it is totally inefficient by today's standards in terms of its use of space which made it impractical in the initial design of the new Terminal 5 AFAIK it WAS part of the initial design of the new Terminal 5. It was to be an ancillary entrance into the new Terminal. Most people would not use it as it is out of the way so it's not a big deal if it couldn't handle the total expected flow of passengers into the new terminal. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 10 08:35:34 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Jul 9 13:58:46 2012. Yes, I was very excited to walk through it, but when I went to the connection with it from the new Terminal 5, the door was locked. |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Jul 10 16:32:14 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jul 10 01:45:13 2012. other modes of travel to and from the airport.... |
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Posted by jasonbellamy on Tue Jul 10 17:58:22 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Jul 9 02:30:35 2012. Are there any buses that serve JFK and LGA, besides the local transit buses and NYAS expresses?How hard would it be for an interstate bus to start serving a NYC airport? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jul 10 21:10:42 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by The Silence on Tue Jul 10 16:32:14 2012. The point of this bus would be to act as a feeder to the airport from New England. The train can't do it since it would have to reverse from Jamaica to get onto the Hell Gate, and there are no flights, so what exactly would this be competing with? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jul 10 21:13:38 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by jasonbellamy on Tue Jul 10 17:58:22 2012. Unless its a bus coming from west of the Hudson, JFK is way out of the way. I believe Trans Bridge extends some runs from PABT to JFK, and there is (was?) Connecticut Limo. I think there are also some jitney services to places like the Poconos |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jul 11 22:46:44 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jul 10 21:13:38 2012. Is CT Limo now doing service as GO Airlink Shuttle (with vehicles labeled Prime Time Connecticut)? |
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Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Jul 12 12:00:34 2012, in response to Re: Using the Historic Terminal 5 Head House at JFK as a Bus Terminal?, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jul 11 22:46:44 2012. I actually have no idea, I haven't seem any of their buses in forever. |
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