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Posted by Jimbo Kalin on Tue Jun 26 06:55:26 2012, in response to Boltbus expanding to................., posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jun 26 04:27:21 2012. And from another source-http://www.riverheadlocal.com/local-news/5985-boltbus-eyes-ny-to-riverhead-service-as-soon-as-this-fall |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 26 08:49:49 2012, in response to Boltbus expanding to................., posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jun 26 04:27:21 2012. Please make clickable links for those of us browsing on some phone models. Also please copy and paste an excerpt of the text for those people without a login to that site. It's also a good idea for any article you are linking to.-------------------------------------------------------- BoltBus to provide Long Island-NYC service June 24, 2012 by SARAH CRICHTON / sarah.crichton@newsday.com Bolt Bus, an inexpensive luxury bus service will BoltBus, the big orange coach bus company that moves about 40,000 riders throughout the Northeast each week, is coming to Long Island.  The carrier is partnering with Hampton Luxury Liner to provide 15 daily round trips from Manhattan's East Side to Ronkonkoma and Riverhead, starting this fall. "The region is ripe for this type of service, with people currently commuting into the city on the LIRR to Penn Station," said David Hall, the Dallas-based general manager of BoltBus, a division of Greyhound Lines. "This new service takes you direct to the East Side; we think people will find that more convenient." Mike Schoolman, president of Bohemia-based Classic Transportation, which owns Hampton Luxury Liner and Classic Coach bus services, said the BoltBus schedule and exact locations of the Manhattan departure and arrival points are still being determined. Hampton Luxury Liner has five New York City departure points on Lexington Avenue between 40th and 86th streets that it uses for daily service between the Hamptons and Manhattan. It also offers winery tours to the North Fork from Manhattan and Long Island locations. Classic Coach provides charter buses and makes five daily trips from Long Island to Atlantic City. BoltBus, with wireless Internet access, power outlets and extra legroom, operates among Washington D.C., Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York City and Boston. The price for a Ronkonkoma to New York City ticket would be less than $15, Schoolman said. A Riverhead trip price has not been determined. The new bus concept has the support of Islip, Brookhaven and Riverhead towns. "We feel it's an important transportation option for the East End and will complement the existing Long Island Rail Road service -- especially in special-events situations such as the recent Tall Ships or the Riverhead Country Fair," said Chris Kempner, Riverhead community development director. Hampton Luxury Liner will operate as the Long Island licensee for BoltBus. Hall and Schoolman said the operation would target both the Long Island commuter and tourist markets. "Around 50 million people visit New York City a year and most don't hire cars," Schoolman said. "Having a service like Bolt to quickly, efficiently and comfortably bring them to Long Island would facilitate spending at our hotels, museums and other attractions, such as the wineries and beaches." The two planned stops on Long Island are at the Courtyard Marriott hotel in Ronkonkoma and the Hilton Garden Inn opposite the Tanger Factory Outlet in Riverhead. Passengers also could arrange package deals to visit other attractions. ... "The goal is getting people out of cars and decongesting our very busy Long Island Expressway," he said. "This is another option to take cars off the road when the roads are busy." LIRR president Helena Williams said the railroad would welcome competition and the promise of more tourists and jobs for Long Island. "But the LIRR remains the fastest and greenest way to Manhattan from Ronkonkoma," she said. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jun 26 10:57:23 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 26 08:49:49 2012. Wow quite nice! I thought LIRR went to Ronkonkoma though? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Jun 26 12:49:55 2012, in response to Boltbus expanding to................., posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jun 26 04:27:21 2012. Something isn't right here. Is Hampton Luxury Liner throwing in the towel? It SOUNDS like it. |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Tue Jun 26 13:06:57 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jun 26 10:57:23 2012. But the LIRR wont serve the East Side of Manhattan like the bus will... Not in the forseeable future, at least. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 26 13:38:44 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 26 08:49:49 2012. LIRR president Helena Williams said the railroad would welcome competition and the promise of more tourists and jobs for Long Island. "But the LIRR remains the fastest and greenest way to Manhattan from Ronkonkoma," she said.But not to Riverhead - - as Ms. Williams quoted only Rokonkoma. Given time, it may be possibe that Bolt Bus may have a good customer base to Riverhead/Tanger Outlets, especially after mid-October when the LIRR will no longer offer the Greenport scoot on weekends until May, 2013. But the LIRR can change their minds (yea, cost) and restore the two round trip limited weekend service year-round. |
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Posted by Train2104 on Tue Jun 26 17:09:33 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 26 13:38:44 2012. Who would take the bus to/from KO? The train service out there is pretty good, during the rush hour they're insanely crowded but still is the LIE.I forsee the KO service being discontinued in a few years, unless its extended to the airport. Riverhead, on the other hand, will probably be a big success because HJ charges $22 to get out there and has an outbound-oriented schedule. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 26 19:33:41 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 26 13:38:44 2012. There is a budget neutral way to serve Greenport on non-summer weekends.Run one round trip out of Ronkonkoma with a 4 hour lay-over in Greenport. That's one shift, 2 man crew, not going to break the bank. Kill one of the 3 daytime Montauk jobs east of Speonk. |
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Posted by Train2104 on Tue Jun 26 20:02:02 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 26 19:33:41 2012. The current two round trip weekend Greenport schedule is also one two-man crew. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jun 26 21:20:37 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Train2104 on Tue Jun 26 17:09:33 2012. It's the "insanely crowded" part that will get a few people to drop their cars at the hotel and ride comfortably with reserved seating and WiFi.Ronkonkoma is part of a very big project going on in the area - it all ties together with the idea of keeping younger folks on the island. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jun 26 21:21:38 2012, in response to Boltbus expanding to................., posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jun 26 04:27:21 2012. LOL. You sound more excited than when I first told you. |
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Posted by Train2104 on Tue Jun 26 21:31:36 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jun 26 21:20:37 2012. It may be crowded, but who wants to sit in a bus in stop and go traffic for more than an hour? |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jun 26 21:54:34 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Train2104 on Tue Jun 26 21:31:36 2012. People who are guaranteed a seat on a bus that makes no stops, where they can be in relative comfort while in traffic.And people who dont have to deal with the subways. |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:01:42 2012, in response to Boltbus expanding to................., posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jun 26 04:27:21 2012. I say its about time! Hampton Jitney is overpriced and doesn't even carry within LI. They will do very well with the Ronkonkoma-Riverhead service, considering the LIRR has limited service and weekend service will end by the fall.I'm sure the powerful folks at Hampton Jitney will try hard to put a stop to it, just like they have done with the LIRR. LIRR service is bad on the east end (in particular the Greenport branch) for a reason... HJ is starting that new Sag Harbor-Greenport ferry and it will be overpriced at $11 each way (in comparison FI Ferries are around $7 or $8). Finally the HJ monopoly will be coming to an end. If Bolt steals enough HJ riders they may be able to take it over outright...good riddance to the Snob Coach! |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:07:22 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Train2104 on Tue Jun 26 17:09:33 2012. Well the Courtyard is pretty close to the LIRR Ronkonkoma station, and I'd use it to get to Tanger instead of the limited Scoot service or a lengthy ST ride. This could be great for intra-island riders, as long as they dont copy HJ's "if you're not traveling to/from NYC you dont count" method.This could also finally force the LIRR to improve Greenport service. At least have year round service on weekends! I'm not sure how much parking is available at Courtyard, but this could be a great Park and Ride concept, esp during the holidays when parking at Tanger is impossible. |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:08:31 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Train2104 on Tue Jun 26 21:31:36 2012. Well the LIRR doesn't stop at Tanger or go directly to the major destinations that the bus will. |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:09:35 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by JAzumah on Tue Jun 26 12:49:55 2012. Anything to bring down HJ!!! |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Jun 27 00:38:59 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:09:35 2012. It will not bring down HJ. HJ would simply lower their price points and pinch BoltBus/Hampton Luxury Liner in between their standard product and Ambassador Class. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jun 27 04:43:59 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:09:35 2012. Do you hate EVERYTHING???? It appears so |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jun 27 04:45:27 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:01:42 2012. Umm they're riding buses....Snobs drive SUVs remember? |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Jun 27 05:52:29 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jun 26 10:57:23 2012. Wow quite nice! I thought LIRR went to Ronkonkoma though?Yes, however MacArthur Airport is in Ronkonkoma, but what's in Riverhead besides the RR Museum of LI ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Jun 27 05:58:10 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:08:31 2012. Well the LIRR doesn't stop at Tanger or go directly to the major destinations that the bus will.What's the point of taking Bolt Bus to Tanger Outlets to save money on shopping when the cost of a round trip ride would probably cancel out savings ? Savvy New Yorkers would shop Manhattan stores and probably break even. Unless they want the scenic ride ! Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Hart Bus on Wed Jun 27 10:04:58 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Jun 27 05:52:29 2012. County courts and the county lock-up + Tamger Factory outlet mall.Also Riverhead Raceway, the only auto race track close to NYC |
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Posted by mac5689 on Thu Jun 28 21:32:39 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:01:42 2012. Nothing I've read has said that BOLT would carry within Long Island.The only involvment I know Hampton Jitney has with that new ferry service is that they would be seeling tickets at one of their offices that are close to the Sag Harbor end, other then that I haven't heard of HJ having any part in the service itself. You are aware that the LIRR has been around longer then Hampton Jitney, so I can't see how they could have done anything to make LIRR service out east what it is. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Jun 28 23:47:53 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by Hart Bus on Wed Jun 27 10:04:58 2012. Not to mentioned its the start of wine country |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Jun 28 23:54:26 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Jun 26 23:09:35 2012. You're a fucking idiot. They exist to shuttle people from Manhattan to the hamptons, not within the island. Go actually do something with your life instead of bitching about a business that would fail miserably under your control |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Jun 28 23:55:00 2012, in response to Re: Boltbus expanding to................., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jun 26 21:21:38 2012. Hehe what do you mean first told me ;) |
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