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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 03:33:40 2012, in response to NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:12:53 2012. The real problem isn't just funding..its getting the MTA to take ideas and suggestions seriously.Arrogance doesn't begin to describe them when offered a sound plan of expansion. The Triboro RX plan was and IS a damn good plan for expansion..but it would take BILLIONS TO BUILD..AND YEARS ON TOP OF YEARS TO COMPLETE dealing with the way the MTACC handles construction projects. Case in point..the ESA SUNNY SIDE YARD tunnel projects.. Why aren't the 41st avenue tunnels being extended through the yards alongside the LIRR TUNNELS? WHY are ALL of the subway expansion projects located in MANHATTAN ONLY? What of the much needed routes in the OTHER BOROS that SBS cant give a "quick fix",like UTICA AVENUE in Brooklyn..South Jamaica in Queens..3rd avenue in the BRONX and a whole slew of other sectors that are lacking transit?++ these question will NEED to be addressed sooner or later. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Jun 20 09:44:25 2012, in response to NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:12:53 2012. new rapid transit bus line along Main Street in Flushing, Queens, connecting College Point, Flushing and downtown Jamaica.Isn't that the Q44? |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 20 09:50:44 2012, in response to NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:12:53 2012. This discussion is sorely needed, even if I don't agree with some of the specific ideas (a B46-M15 interline would likely be plagued with delays). The focus is still too much on moving people in and out of Manhattan. Obviously the island will remain the city's job center for a long, long time, but efforts should be made to spur targeted job growth and development in satellite areas in the boroughs and connect these with rapid bus service. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 20 11:30:26 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 20 09:50:44 2012. I don't think they're trying to interline the B46 and the M15, I think they just want a transfer point between the two. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 20 11:34:41 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 03:33:40 2012. Triboro Rx really shouldn't take that long. It's simply adding a 2nd track to part of an existing ROW and adding some stations. I can probably go to home depot and do all that. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:15:42 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 20 11:34:41 2012. And get 5% cash back through the end of June if use your citi dividends credit card to cover all the costs. |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Wed Jun 20 13:05:50 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 20 11:34:41 2012. I'll help you, let me know lol!Seriously, it shouldn't take long, but... |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Jun 20 14:05:43 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Jun 20 09:44:25 2012. It doesn't have bus lanes, traffic-signal priority, or off-board fare payment. The bus exists, but it's slow. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Jun 20 14:08:03 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 20 09:50:44 2012. I read that as simply extend the B46 to Manhattan to connect with the M15. Not interlining the two, which would certainly be a nightmare. |
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Posted by vfrt on Wed Jun 20 15:10:31 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by WayneJay on Wed Jun 20 14:08:03 2012. The B39 did that for years, but wasn't it's ridership always very low?? |
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Posted by vfrt on Wed Jun 20 15:13:48 2012, in response to NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 20 01:12:53 2012. Create a branch of the S57 to the College of Staten Island (CSI). Many CSI students would use that route. The 'S57C'. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 15:30:30 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Jun 20 14:05:43 2012. Right, there is nothing rapid about the Q44 |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 15:35:25 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by vfrt on Wed Jun 20 15:10:31 2012. The B39 was essentially a shuttle route, this would extend the B46 to connect to the M15. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 20 16:13:33 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 15:35:25 2012. Is there any estimate on the customer demand for a B46-M15 connection? It sounds great in theory but there is significant added expense as well as the possibility of greater delays. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 20 17:10:09 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 20 12:15:42 2012. DONE! lol |
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Posted by E and F and sometimes J on Wed Jun 20 18:36:16 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 03:33:40 2012. NIMBY'S, NIMBY'S, NIMBY'S!That is the answer you seek! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 20 22:13:51 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 20 09:50:44 2012. You don't even need an M15-B46 interline. Just send the M15 short-turns that currently end at Pike and Division across the Williamsburg Bridge and have them end at Williamsburg Bridge Plaza. Then there would be better access to the East Side from Brooklyn. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 20 22:14:42 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Jun 20 09:44:25 2012. Actually, the Q20, Q25, and Q65. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 20 22:35:55 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 20 22:13:51 2012. thats the thing..they are suggesting a rapid line on the surface,using the SBS B46/M15..not extending the shorturn locals...It would create a "Semi-express subway on the street" from Avenue U in Brooklyn to 125th st Manhattan..one hellofa long line.. This is an express bus type routing...using articulated buses. A good idea..but Id have to worry about the operators.. Would the do round trips..split routes... whats the "most likey" scenario? Need to see the details! |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 20 22:49:31 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Jun 20 15:35:25 2012. The B39 was mainly popular with wheelchair passengers and people who weren't able-bodied (climb up the stairs), especially since Essex Street doesn't have an elevator whereas Marcy Avenue does.Extending the B46 to Manhattan is not a bad idea, although I always thought it would be the B44 that would go into Manhattan. I'd say that a majority of the DeKalb Avenue short-turns (Flushing Avenue for the B44) would be moved to the Plaza if an extension were to take place. |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu Jun 21 07:59:10 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 20 22:49:31 2012. b44 at one time did go into manhattan. this was about 55-60 years ago. |
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Posted by vfrt on Thu Jun 21 11:50:14 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by mci guy on Thu Jun 21 07:59:10 2012. As a trolley car or as a bus route? |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu Jun 21 12:49:38 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by vfrt on Thu Jun 21 11:50:14 2012. both. |
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Posted by Dan on Thu Jun 21 13:47:57 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by mci guy on Thu Jun 21 12:49:38 2012. Just looked at some old geographia Brooklyn street guides from the 1950s and no routing of the B44 across the WB. So maybe it was doen in the trolley days. IIRC Nostrand trolley service ended in 1951. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 22 00:13:57 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 20 11:34:41 2012. no..it shouldn't..but if it becomes part of our subway system..and MTACC/MTA has anything to do with it being constructed AND operated..it WILL take years!Its the cost of doing business with them.. Also..lets be honest here..they are inept..period. This service would be better off being built AND operated by another contractor..and I stress this..by the CITY OF NEW YORK[since the CITY OWNS the system]..not the MTA/NYS. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Jun 22 06:21:08 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jun 22 00:13:57 2012. Nope. |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Jun 22 07:40:01 2012, in response to Re: NYC Officials Call for Better Transit in the Outer Boroughs, posted by Dan on Thu Jun 21 13:47:57 2012. ok. there is an abandoned trolley turnaround under williamsburg bridge. we have a friend born 1947 who says she rode b44 manh. to bklyn |
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