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Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 13 14:38:03 2012 An unoccupied bus, disabled and under tow, burst into flames on the Long Island Expressway Tuesday evening, snarling traffic as Plainview firefighters put down the inferno. The Plainview Fire Department responded to a fully involved bus fire just after 10 p.m. on the eastbound LIE at Sunnyside Boulevard in Plainview. At the time, the electric powered bus was disabled and being towed. The tow truck operator noticed the fire in his window and contacted authorities. The tow truck driver was taken to Nassau University Medical Center to be treated for smoke inhalation, firefighters said. One Plainview firefighter sustained a minor injury as was treated at the scene. The bus is owned by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority and was bearing New York City insignias. Firefighters used streams of firefighting foam to extinguish the stubborn fire. The eastbound lanes of the LIE and the ramps at exit 46 were closed for several hours in the vicinity of the fire, authorities reported. Firefighters were under the command of Chief of Department Craig Robinson. More photos: http://plainview.patch.com/articles/disabled-bus-explodes-in-flames-on-lie |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 13 15:30:19 2012, in response to Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 13 14:38:03 2012. Wonder if it was a towing issue, seeing how the flames are coming from the wheel wells and not the engine compartment. |
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| (261963) | |
Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by TCO on Wed Jun 13 16:07:29 2012, in response to Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 13 14:38:03 2012. I don't understand why didn't they used flatbed truck?? |
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| (261973) | |
Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 13 18:35:40 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TCO on Wed Jun 13 16:07:29 2012. ?????How often do you see MTA/NYCT buses on flatbed trucks (relative to how often you see them being towed normally)? |
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| (261981) | |
Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 13 20:04:46 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TCO on Wed Jun 13 16:07:29 2012. When the hell do they ever use a flatbed!? |
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| (261985) | |
Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 13 20:43:51 2012, in response to Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 13 14:38:03 2012. What the hell is it with buses catching fire??? |
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| (261992) | |
Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by fishbowls4ever on Wed Jun 13 21:23:05 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 13 15:30:19 2012. Possibly towing issue, if you dont cage the rear brakes or not enough it can cause a fire. There are other possibilities also. |
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| (261993) | |
Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by fishbowls4ever on Wed Jun 13 21:24:19 2012, in response to Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 13 14:38:03 2012. Thats a expensive set of tow lights that got toasted. |
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| (262008) | |
Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jun 13 23:40:30 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 13 20:04:46 2012. +1Of all the NYC buses I've seen being towed, I've not once seen one on a flatbed. |
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| (262020) | |
Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 14 00:59:17 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TCO on Wed Jun 13 16:07:29 2012. I've never seen an MTA bus on a flatbed unless it's headed to the scrapyard, and even now they're carried on the backs of wreckers with scrap tires on the bus. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 14 01:00:03 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 13 15:30:19 2012. It seems as though the tow truck operator didn't ensure that the brake lines were not disconnected. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 14 06:21:30 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jun 13 18:35:40 2012. Bump. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 14 06:22:24 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Jun 13 20:04:46 2012. I just said that... |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 14 06:22:59 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 13 20:43:51 2012. Nothing for YOU to worry about. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by TCO on Thu Jun 14 15:56:28 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TCO on Wed Jun 13 16:07:29 2012. We used flatbed tow truck when the buses break down and it easy. I I know a guy who used to work for NYCT for 25 years and told me tow truck in new york city is a piece a shit. He told me NYCT is a piece of shit and they just throw the money away for nothing. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by TCO on Thu Jun 14 15:58:25 2012, in response to Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jun 13 14:38:03 2012. Burn baby Burn!!! That why orion is a piece of shit bus. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 14 18:04:29 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TCO on Thu Jun 14 15:58:25 2012. Whys is that POS, uh, bus doing in Hicksville ? |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 14 18:13:03 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TCO on Thu Jun 14 15:56:28 2012. Surely you're mistaken then. Obviously. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jun 14 18:27:30 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 14 18:04:29 2012. They are POS since day 1. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 14 19:22:40 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 14 18:04:29 2012. Whys is that POS, uh, bus doing in Hicksville ?Maybe receiving some kind of work out east near Ronkonkoma ? There is a bus repair facility on Vet's Hwy, though the name escapes me at the moment. A couple of years ago, I saw an MTA bus or two parked outside. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by B53RICH on Thu Jun 14 20:13:04 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 14 19:22:40 2012. Atlantic Detroit Diesel. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jun 14 20:46:59 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 14 18:13:03 2012. Mother Clara Hale depot REGULARLY had buses moved around on flatbed trucks. The short wheelbase of the Orion campared to the RTS makes the flatbed the better choice to move a disabled bus. Less worry about raising the front which can cause the rear end to drag on the street due to overhang from rear wheels aft.STILL LOL@MOVING DEAD BUSES |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by mac5689 on Thu Jun 14 21:18:24 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by B53RICH on Thu Jun 14 20:13:04 2012. Atlantic Detroit Diesel is gone now, I've heard from two sources that Cummins has taken over the site. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by B53RICH on Thu Jun 14 21:28:23 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by mac5689 on Thu Jun 14 21:18:24 2012. Read the same here or on another forum recently.I work not far from there. I haven't passed that way in a while, too many lights on Vets. Maybe a drive that way soon. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by mac5689 on Thu Jun 14 21:31:52 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by B53RICH on Thu Jun 14 21:28:23 2012. Wasn't aware it that info was posted here.Heard it from a guy who passed by it on his way home from work I believe about two months are so ago, I couldn't believe it, and then like a few few days later I heard the same thing from a friend who rode passed it on the S54. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Jun 14 21:54:14 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jun 14 20:46:59 2012. Hmm... That probably explains why MCH dumped their RTS buses elsewhere. Back in '99 to about '00, MCH sent their Novas to Kingsbridge & Gun Hill to make room for more Orions. Specifically, #9111-9124 to KB, and #9225-9139 & #9186 to GH. I used to ride on the Bx19, when MCH had the route, and after I saw those RTS's transfer out, I never saw any RTS's running from MCH ever again. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Thu Jun 14 22:13:04 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by mac5689 on Thu Jun 14 21:31:52 2012. Atlantic Detroit Diesel is gone from Vets Highway, Ronkonkoma. Replaced by Cummins. Seen it with my own eyes over 3 months ago. One problem with flat bedding these buses, 11 foot 3 inches tall. You don't want to rip off a battery box going under an overpass. Imagine the fun if that happens! |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jun 14 22:18:56 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by mac5689 on Thu Jun 14 21:18:24 2012. yep, they are gone |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by fishbowls4ever on Thu Jun 14 22:52:29 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jun 14 20:46:59 2012. If you tow them from the rear you dont have to worry about caging the brakes and or removing the driveshaft. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Thu Jun 14 23:05:34 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by fishbowls4ever on Thu Jun 14 22:52:29 2012. You don't need to cage the brakes. That's what the air hose from the tow truck is for. You pull the rear axles out, not bad to do at all. You don't really want to tow one of these things from the rear. The front is almost dragging the ground. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by fishbowls4ever on Thu Jun 14 23:07:13 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Cornell Park on Thu Jun 14 23:05:34 2012. Yes no need to cage the brakes if you can air it up. I didnt think they went that far. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 04:25:44 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Jun 14 21:54:14 2012. Bus assignment decisions are not made at the depot level, rather at the hq. of DOB. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Jun 15 04:38:09 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 04:25:44 2012. Ah, I see. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jun 15 10:15:10 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by TCO on Thu Jun 14 15:58:25 2012. Bus fires happen for lots of reasons, and very few of them having anything to do with the manufacturer. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by B53RICH on Sat Jun 16 19:01:28 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Cornell Park on Thu Jun 14 22:13:04 2012. Drove past there this morning, red Cummins sign up.There's an Orion VII in the yard, I didn't see the number, if it was 3741. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sat Jun 16 23:59:49 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by B53RICH on Sat Jun 16 19:01:28 2012. That sign was up when I past there months ago. Seeing it provoked a "What the fu*k is this sh*t?" out of my mouth. Stunned by Atlantic's demise. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by mac5689 on Sun Jun 17 01:06:20 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Cornell Park on Sat Jun 16 23:59:49 2012. Maybe Atlantic's demise had something to do with the bus fire last year, either that or there is a big lack of Detriot Diesel operators on Long Island |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sun Jun 17 01:58:25 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by mac5689 on Sun Jun 17 01:06:20 2012. Just to you guys know 3741 is now at ECH depot for scrap. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jun 17 18:29:09 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by mac5689 on Sun Jun 17 01:06:20 2012. Atlantic was down from 2 shifts to only 1. And it wasn't a busy place only being open "part time" toward the end. |
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Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos) |
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Posted by mac5689 on Mon Jun 18 00:00:28 2012, in response to Re: Disabled MTA Orion VII #3741 Bus Explodes in Flames on LIE (Photos), posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jun 17 18:29:09 2012. Ah so it would seem that there weren't a lot of customers, though I doubt the fire helped matters. Especially since one of the buses destroied was a county bus, though from what I heard I'm sure that the company that operated the destored bus pobably got some of the blame to. |
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