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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 6 17:27:09 2012, in response to SI Division, posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Wed Jun 6 10:25:59 2012. Actually, I would suggest that the rush hour short-turns be assigned to Castleton, as well as the S57 and S59, solely to save money. (All would have run-ons and run-offs in the Port Richmond area.) |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Jun 6 17:36:55 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 6 17:27:09 2012. Some of the drivers switch buses at the Yukon Depot, but yeah, it would definitely save money to have the S57, S59, and rush hour S44s based out of Castleton. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 6 20:53:06 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Jun 6 17:36:55 2012. Why have the S59 out of Castleton full-time when it passes right in front of Yukon? Maybe have some S59s start and end at Yukon Avenue instead of deadheading to Port Richmond or Tottenville. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 6 21:50:06 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 6 20:53:06 2012. The northern terminus of the S59 is about 2,000 feet from the garage. Some of the rush-hour trips should be out of Charleston. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 6 21:57:04 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 6 21:50:06 2012. There are school runs on the S59 from Charleston actually. |
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Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Wed Jun 6 22:27:09 2012, in response to SI Division, posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Wed Jun 6 10:25:59 2012. HELL NO STATEN ISLAND AIN'T DOING A GREAT JOB.The s44 service suck. the bus is always late. and I am always missing a ferry boat. MTA Need to do some improvements on that s44 because their service is SHITTY. That fucking SHITTY44. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 6 22:37:59 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Wed Jun 6 22:27:09 2012. Well one bus line doesn't reflect on the entire division as a whole, but I agree the S44 is a garbage line, especially with all the lowlives who use the line and don't pay. |
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Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Wed Jun 6 22:57:53 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 6 22:37:59 2012. Trust me, I see groups of kids come on the bus and They don't fucking pay. The School give kids Student Metrocards and they don't use them. I have to miss my boat and wait 20-30Mins because they get on and don't pay. I should save money and don't pay for the bus. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 7 05:53:03 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Wed Jun 6 22:57:53 2012. I feel your pain, but don't worry. The no-good lowlives will get theres one day so don't even sweat it. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Thu Jun 7 09:55:39 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 6 17:27:09 2012. Agreed, I would definitely like to see Castleton add some short-turn runs to Yukon routes. I believe the S57 and S59 already have some runs based out of Castleton during school hours. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Thu Jun 7 10:00:57 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Wed Jun 6 22:27:09 2012. One bus route does not represent the entire SI Division. But, the S44 has been bad for as long as I can remember when it comes to timeliness, speed & not being timed with the ferry. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Thu Jun 7 10:04:48 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 6 22:37:59 2012. The MTA should run about 5-6 buses an hour on the S44 with more Castleton buses than Yukon buses, primarily because the new buses have cameras. A couple of buses could terminate in Port Richmond, because the line really needs help. Using BusTime for the S44 is interesting and a real head-scratcher at times. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Thu Jun 7 10:05:48 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 7 05:53:03 2012. I hope so, they're also taking up seats that paying riders would otherwise use. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Thu Jun 7 10:14:10 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Wed Jun 6 22:57:53 2012. The S44 is definitely a troubled route that needs to be examined and re-examined. It should run somewhat like the S46 with short-turns in Port Richmond instead of the Teleport so at least there's a chance of catching the ferry using that line. Most S44 buses arrive late at St. George seconds after the ferry departs.I would send the S76 to Charleston and give Castleton the S44. Maybe if the S44 had better service, riders would be more inclined to pay? |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 7 11:19:18 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Thu Jun 7 09:55:39 2012. They already do, during school days there are Castleton buses on the S57 and S59. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 7 11:40:32 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by LRG5784 on Wed Jun 6 20:53:06 2012. You could do that, but there's no point when the Castleton Depot is less than a mile from the terminal (Just go straight down Park, make a left on Castleton, and you're right there)You could just split it between the 3 depots. Some rush hour runs could be based out of Charleston (since they start/end at Tottenville), some trippers for those schools near the mall could be based out of Yukon, and the rest can be based out of Castleton. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 7 11:46:57 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Wed Jun 6 22:57:53 2012. What does them not paying have to do with you missing the ferry? In fact, it speeds up the trip if they don't dip in a Student MetroCard because then they can all just jump on instead of lining up to pay. In fact, a couple of days ago, myself and a bunch of other students got on the S46, and they were all loaded within a matter of 15 seconds tops. (I was the only one who took the time to pay, so at least 2 or 3 of those seconds were due to me dipping in my Student MetroCarD) |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 7 12:05:36 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Thu Jun 7 10:14:10 2012. Those Teleport runs aren't short-turns. The difference in distance between St. George-West Shore Plaza and St. George-Teleport is negligable. In any case, unfortunately, the S44 doesn't warrant any additional service as far as ridership goes, but in the later part of midday, they should allow an extra cushion. I mean, around 1PM, they allow a 7 minute cushion, which generally works from experience, but around 3PM, they only allow a 1 minute cushion, which likely results in a lot of missed connections.I think they really need to reevaluate the scheduling too. From experience, those buses that leave the SI Mall around 5PM or 5:30 generally don't run into as many problems as those leaving around 3PM or so, and yet they allot more running time to the runs at 5PM. I remember on a recent trip, the B/O had to kill a good 10 minutes at least because he was alloted too much time, and yet earlier in the day, people are likely missing their ferries because of too little time. As for the second comment, I doubt that. You might attract more riders who would pay, but the riders who currently farebeat would likely continue to do so. And there's no point in sending the S76 to Charleston. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 7 13:57:57 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 7 11:40:32 2012. If that's the case then why was the S57 sent to Yukon? Simple: so a bus deadheading to/from New Dorp won't have to go all the way to Castleton. Same reason why the S59 is at Yukon: buses going to/from Tottenville won't have to deal with a rather lengthly deadhead to Castleton. For the S57, the deadhead from Yukon to New Dorp is less time than the deadhead from New Dorp to Castleton. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 7 15:01:08 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 7 13:57:57 2012. That's why I suggested to split them. Either that, or time it so the drivers begin and end their runs in Port Richmond instead of New Dorp. |
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Posted by caine515 on Thu Jun 7 20:27:53 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by (SIR) North Shore line on Thu Jun 7 10:05:48 2012. Here is in my opinion what depots the local buses should be at(and i know everyone will complain)S40/S90-Castleton S42-Castleton S44/S94-Yukon S46/S96-Castleton S48/S98-Castleton S51/S81-Castleton S52-Castleton S53/S93-Castleton S54-Can be either Yukon or Castleton S55/S56-Charleston S57-Castleston(not sure why it went to Yukon) S59-Yukon S61/S91-Yukon S62/S92-Yukon S66-Castleton S74/S84-Charleston S76/S86-Castleton S78-Charleston S79-Right now it's Yukon but once SBS starts, i'm thinking it will be Charleston as can Yukon handle artics for this line ? Also, did anyone see the damage allready to Prevost #2442? Looks bad and was on the driver's side. Noticed it on the X5 Tuesday. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jun 7 20:56:20 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by caine515 on Thu Jun 7 20:27:53 2012. S79 SBS for right now its Orion VII Next Gen hybrids. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 7 21:44:27 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by caine515 on Thu Jun 7 20:27:53 2012. Basically the same as it is now, even the S54 has rush hour runs supplied by Yukon. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 7 21:45:51 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 7 15:01:08 2012. You can't just have all the runs end in Port Richmond. It just doesn't work like that. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jun 7 23:50:00 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jun 7 21:45:51 2012. That's why I said you could either split them or do that. |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Jun 8 07:49:30 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by caine515 on Thu Jun 7 20:27:53 2012. i saw that damage the other day and was quite surprised to see it in service. |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Jun 8 07:51:13 2012, in response to Re: SI Division, posted by caine515 on Thu Jun 7 20:27:53 2012. i saw that damage the other day and was quite surprised to see it in service. yukon has no lifts for artics but theyre putting rigids on the line for now. |
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