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MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by Gold_12TH on Fri May 18 18:58:54 2012

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--- May 2012 meeting; page 43/44; pdf


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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by merrick1 on Sat May 19 09:31:17 2012, in response to MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by Gold_12TH on Fri May 18 18:58:54 2012.

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Getting the cost of MCI's down may not bode well for Millennium's RTS express bus. I think Millennium was marketing the RTS as less expensive alternative to a coach bus.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by Joe V on Sat May 19 10:04:23 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by merrick1 on Sat May 19 09:31:17 2012.

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Well there is one less axle/wheel/tire/brake assembly to deal with when you lack a tag axle.

Are RTS's any lighter or more fuel efficient than D4500's (or whatever they are buying) ?

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by BedStuyGuy on Sat May 19 11:17:24 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by Joe V on Sat May 19 10:04:23 2012.

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Much lighter, more fuel efficient, and much less expensive and only have 8 seats less than an MCI. The RTS will also have Allison's new Load-Based shifting transmission, which is the most fuel efficient Allison option to date.

The current MTS buses running around are getting an unexpected 6MPG, and are more efficient than even Millennium thought they would be.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by Dan on Sat May 19 12:58:22 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by BedStuyGuy on Sat May 19 11:17:24 2012.

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But the MCI's (and Prevost) buses are much more comfortable express buses on those long trips between SI and Manhattan.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by Joe V on Sat May 19 13:11:21 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by BedStuyGuy on Sat May 19 11:17:24 2012.

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I remember reading the GM 35' PD-series buses of 1961-1965, with 8V-71 DD engines, got 8 MPG.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat May 19 17:35:13 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by BedStuyGuy on Sat May 19 11:17:24 2012.

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The problem is...those 8 seats count in terms of supplying capacity into demand during the rush.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by JAzumah on Sun May 20 01:33:10 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat May 19 17:35:13 2012.

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Not anymore...the MTA isn't using the extra seats right now except on SI.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue May 22 18:14:50 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by Dan on Sat May 19 12:58:22 2012.

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Honestly, with the right amount of cushioning, I've found some RTSs to be more comfortable

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by mci guy on Wed May 23 09:58:56 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue May 22 18:14:50 2012.

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far from a done deal. mta needs approval from the bankruptcy court. they hope to get it in june. if they do pilot bus would arrive in august and 53 remaining in nov/dec.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed May 23 19:20:47 2012, in response to MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by Gold_12TH on Fri May 18 18:58:54 2012.

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"non-competative" equals one of them no bid contracts??

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by Mr. D - Type on Thu May 24 08:39:57 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue May 22 18:14:50 2012.

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I still believe that the MCI Classics [ Ex-Liberty Lines / Command ] with the soft padded seats were very comfortable.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by RailBus63 on Thu May 24 09:47:46 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by orange blossom special on Wed May 23 19:20:47 2012.

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Essentially, yes. The purchase is part of a larger agreement with MCI so they couldn't put out a bid that Prevost or any other coach manufacturer could conceivably win. The contract was reviewed by MTA's Audit Services group and found to be fair and reasonable (only $4k more per bus than the Prevost contract price).

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 25 01:28:42 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by Mr. D - Type on Thu May 24 08:39:57 2012.

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true indeed..yet they lacked a few features a more modern bus needed to hang on..based on the old GM fishbowls..
I loved the front end of the revamped new look,though..much better than the rolling boxes we have today.
perhaps if the were revived,like the METRO..

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri May 25 08:40:12 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by Edwards! on Fri May 25 01:28:42 2012.

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I agree, I would love to see the Classic revived.

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Re: MTA buys more MCI buses

Posted by RailBus63 on Fri May 25 09:05:57 2012, in response to Re: MTA buys more MCI buses, posted by Edwards! on Fri May 25 01:28:42 2012.

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I always thought the front of the Classic looked unfinished with that big flat area under the windshield. It needed some additional trim there.

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