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Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Fri May 4 20:00:26 2012 Four manufacturers - New Flyer, NABI, Gillig, and ElDorado National - have made bids for the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract. The contract should be awarded by June 1, and includes a total of 200 buses (diesel and LNG), with 40 buses delivered per year.I would say New Flyer is the most likely, followed by NABI, then ElDorado, and finally Gillig. The reason why I put ElDorado above Gillig is because in 2008, the City of Phoenix actually awarded a contract to ElDorado, but the order got cancelled due to the economy. The City of Phoenix (nor any of the other Valley Metro divisions) has never bought any buses from Gillig directly; all Gilligs that have been operated in the past were contractor-provided buses. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by D40LF on Fri May 4 20:54:42 2012, in response to Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Fri May 4 20:00:26 2012. I'd like to see them go with NABI...the new 3Gs are NICE!!!! |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Fri May 4 22:06:02 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by D40LF on Fri May 4 20:54:42 2012. Note that this poll isn't who you WANT to win, but who do you EXPECT to win. I still EXPECT that New Flyer is the most likely, followed by NABI, than ElDorado, and finally Gillig. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Bx36Ltd on Sun May 6 16:14:49 2012, in response to Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Fri May 4 20:00:26 2012. Its most likely will be new flyer im sure there gona wana stick with a bus that they have parts for there phrasing out the nabi's with flyers so the smart thing would be th get flyers although i wouldn't mind seeing some new nabi's |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Bx36Ltd on Sun May 6 16:17:21 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by D40LF on Fri May 4 20:54:42 2012. Speaking of new flyer you do knw there two 8065's atic's rite? |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by D40LF on Sun May 6 20:11:32 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Fri May 4 22:06:02 2012. oh.......... |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by T8H5307N on Sun May 6 21:22:33 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Bx36Ltd on Sun May 6 16:17:21 2012. My "official" city of Phoenix list shows 14 2008 model buses - which would be 8051-8064. Tempe would start with 8065. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Bx36Ltd on Mon May 7 06:23:14 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by T8H5307N on Sun May 6 21:22:33 2012. I knw wat i saw and it was a dlf60 that said 8065 then a few months lata i see the hybrid 8065.its happn in new york before were they had two 4211's which one was renumbered which was a 3400 series Gmc RTS |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Sun May 13 13:16:10 2012, in response to Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Fri May 4 20:00:26 2012. Here are some interesting bits that I found in the requested specification changes by the bidders:- NABI wants to the City of Phoenix to allow CNG instead of LNG. As expected, the City of Phoenix rejected this change since the Phoenix facilities are not equipped for CNG (only Tempe and RPTA/Mesa have CNG). - Gillig, as they did when they bid in 2006, wants to move all wheelchair positions forward of the rear door instead having one of them behind it. As in 2006, this specification change was also rejected. We will see who gets it by June 1. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by T8H5307N on Sun May 13 15:57:44 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Sun May 13 13:16:10 2012. This was pretty much where things were with the last bid, for which El Dorado prevailed. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Sun May 13 18:32:31 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by T8H5307N on Sun May 13 15:57:44 2012. Gillig didn't bid in 2008, though. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by T8H5307N on Sun May 13 23:55:22 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Sun May 13 18:32:31 2012. Or it declined to submit a bid. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Thu May 31 20:07:22 2012, in response to Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Fri May 4 20:00:26 2012. Update:Today, I decided to give the contracts director for the City of Phoenix transit division a call. The director told me that only New Flyer has submitted their proposal, which they did on April 5. So unless NABI, Gillig, or ElDorado submit a proposal at the last minute, it looks like New Flyer is set to win the contract by default. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Thu May 31 20:16:16 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu May 31 20:07:22 2012. Yea for Veolia Phoenix Ney for Worst Transit Phoenix.Veolia gets NEW buses, Worst Transit gets NABI Crap. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by T8H5307N on Thu May 31 22:01:16 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu May 31 20:07:22 2012. Guess the others didn't want to bother without their specification waivers. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu May 31 23:24:07 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Thu May 31 20:16:16 2012. The Phoenix NABIs aren't bad buses. The D40LFs and D60LFs in the fleet do seem to be better built buses however. |
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Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract? |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Fri Jun 1 13:58:54 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who do you think will win the City of Phoenix/Valley Metro contract?, posted by T8H5307N on Thu May 31 22:01:16 2012. I'm guessing NABI is unwilling to produce LNG buses, while Gillig is unwilling to change the wheelchair locations to requested specs. As for ElDorado, I'm surpised considering they won in 2008. |
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