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Posted by Mack C-49 on Sat Apr 28 15:12:00 2012 Three questions:Is it not true that New York City's hybrid fleet is the largest of any US transit agency, and is entirely Orion built? Since Orion is accepting no more new orders, does this mean the NYC abandons plans for any more hybrids in the near future? Do Nova or NF currently have hybrid buses out for testing in NYC among the several mini-fleets of 90? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Apr 28 15:18:12 2012, in response to Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by Mack C-49 on Sat Apr 28 15:12:00 2012. Right now, our entire hybrid fleet is Orion built. That will change this year or next, however, as there is an order of DE60LFs that should be awarded soon.There are no Nova Bus LFS hybrids in NYC, but in Stamford and Hartford, there are hybrid Nova Bus LFS articulated buses. |
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Posted by gbs on Sat Apr 28 22:01:56 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Apr 28 15:18:12 2012. Didn't NYC abandon hybrids in favor of low-emission diesels? Isn't the latest generation of Orions non-hybrid? |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sat Apr 28 23:39:52 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by gbs on Sat Apr 28 22:01:56 2012. The latest Orion VII NGs are indeed diesel, but they're part of the BTE program. |
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Posted by futurekbarticop on Sun Apr 29 00:40:57 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by WayneJay on Sat Apr 28 23:39:52 2012. There will be no more hybrids purchased. They are WAY too expensive to maintain and cause constant headaches/problems. |
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Posted by BedStuyGuy on Sun Apr 29 06:28:56 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by WayneJay on Sat Apr 28 23:39:52 2012. Those are not NG's. They are E10/3G's. |
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Posted by BedStuyGuy on Sun Apr 29 06:31:24 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by futurekbarticop on Sun Apr 29 00:40:57 2012. That is actually not true at all. MTA does plan to order more hybrid 40 footers in the future, as well as a current pending order for New Flyer DE60LFR's that has yet to be awarded. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Apr 29 10:34:12 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by BedStuyGuy on Sun Apr 29 06:28:56 2012. Whatever dude. No getting into the prefix crap. |
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Posted by mac5689 on Sun Apr 29 14:04:50 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by BedStuyGuy on Sun Apr 29 06:28:56 2012. Does it really matter, I mean its an extention of the Orion VII. and its not like there was a major stle change from the NG's to the 3G's. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun Apr 29 15:17:22 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by mac5689 on Sun Apr 29 14:04:50 2012. But this is a board where some people think it is important to identify a GM bus as a TDH whatever. Although old look, fishbowl and RTS do suffice for most people. |
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Posted by Mack C-49 on Sun Apr 29 20:24:20 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Apr 28 15:18:12 2012. Is the soon-to-be awarded DE60LF order one of the 90-bus orders or will this be a larger order similar to the Nova LF artic order now being delivered? Is there a site which tracks the official status of these things? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 30 09:36:01 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by WayneJay on Sun Apr 29 10:34:12 2012. Whatever dude. No getting into the prefix crap.From what I can tell, "3G" is a busfan invention anyway. The Orion website just calls it "the third generation Orion VII." |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Apr 30 09:37:35 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 30 09:36:01 2012. Who cares they are going out of business anyway. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Apr 30 11:52:49 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Apr 28 15:18:12 2012. Actually, we may get New Flyer Xcelsior XD60 order sooner then the DE60LF.....Its up to MTA management. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Apr 30 11:55:43 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by Mack C-49 on Sun Apr 29 20:24:20 2012. There is two 90 bus orders for New Flyer articulated buses....-DE60LF.... diesel hybrid articulated bus -XD60.... "Xcelsior" clean diesel articulated bus The status as of now... is on hold for a year to fix the corrections, etc. |
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Posted by BedStuyGuy on Mon Apr 30 15:28:30 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 30 09:36:01 2012. Third Generation......3G..... What's the difference?? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 30 15:54:22 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by BedStuyGuy on Mon Apr 30 15:28:30 2012. Third Generation......3G..... What's the difference?? Never mind that; there's a difference between Third Generation and third generation. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Mon Apr 30 20:53:15 2012, in response to Re: Orion, Hybrids & NYC, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Apr 30 09:36:01 2012. I think Orion's use of the 'Next Generation' term was done for marketing reasons anyways - officially, a 40-foot Orion VII has always been model 07.501, regardless of the styling. |
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