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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 12:28:37 2012  VIDEO: NY1 NewsSome Kingsborough Community College students just routinely use the emergency exit to get out and they jump right into the streets of Brighton Beach, Brooklyn. "It’s a bit of an adventure, I guess. It's a bit of an adrenaline rush when you jump out of the back. It’s pretty cool," said KCC student Calvin Roberts. With a 30-percent jump in the number of students, Kingsborough Community College officials say they hired the SAFE Coach Bus Company more than a year ago to run shuttles to the local subway station because it felt there were not enough MTA buses. But with students regularly jumping out the back of the yellow buses, residents say they are anything but safe. "It's very dangerous jumping off the bus," said a local. Kingsborough officials say they have put security assistants on some buses and warn if students continue using the emergency exits inappropriately, the college will have to discontinue the service. There's another issue, as MTA bus drivers say these buses are blocking city bus stops. "We cannot pull safely to the curbs to discharge the wheelchair passengers. We can't pull into our stops. We have to double-park. We have to wait for the school buses to load and unload," said Thomas McNally of Transport Workers Union Local 100. "They're illegally using our stops and it's causing a delay in service for the B1 route." The college said the bus company has recently agreed to stop using MTA bus stops and is working with the police precinct to determine where it should drop off passengers. Kingsborough officials say they were only forced to hire the buses because the MTA refused to increase service to the campus. But the MTA says it never refused to add service and works closely with the college checking ridership numbers. MTA officials say they are now ready to add more B1 and B49 service starting next week. It is good news for the college but it may not have all students jumping for joy. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 11 13:20:11 2012, in response to Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 12:28:37 2012. MTA officials say they are now ready to add more B1 and B49 service starting next week. It is good news for the college but it may not have all students jumping for joy.School will be over in 5 weeks after the MTA adds B1 and B49 service - - too little, too late. |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Apr 11 13:28:10 2012, in response to Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 12:28:37 2012. SAFE Coach Bus Company ... ironic name. |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by caine515 on Wed Apr 11 13:29:52 2012, in response to Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 12:28:37 2012. short trips MUST be a priority for B1 runs to be timed with the trains...or at least have a few waiting for trains to help with the load. kingsborough students will take WHATEVER comes first to get to class.B68-#924-New Flyer |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Apr 11 13:34:28 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by caine515 on Wed Apr 11 13:29:52 2012. If those runs are only needed to serve the college, then KCC should help subsidize them or run a true shuttle service with more appropriate vehicles than school buses. |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 11 13:39:23 2012, in response to Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 12:28:37 2012. The union is exaggerating the problem about the buses stopping in MTA bus stops and conflicting with MTA buses. Discharging at Coney Island Avenue, the school buses usually just double park. They are also unsafe because they make illegal u-turns. They pick up at a block long stop that used to be shared with the B68, so there is plenty of room there.The service has been operating for three to five years, not a little over a year. If it were to be discontinued, the MTA would have to increase B1 service on the eastern portion of the route by about 30% during certain parts of the day on Mondays through Thursdays according to counts I made. Also, the current terminal near Kingsborough College couldn't handle an increase of service by that amount. The school buses discharge on College property, which is not permitted for the MTA. The MTA does not consider the number of students using the school buses in its passenger counts although the story seems to indicate otherwise. |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 13:45:52 2012, in response to Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 12:28:37 2012. The question is, does the college need more "B1" and "B49" service? or does it just need a bus to get students to and from the Brighton Line? |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 13:55:01 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 13:45:52 2012. it just need a bus to get students to and from the Brighton Line |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 13:59:16 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Apr 11 13:34:28 2012. With the amount of students using the bus, I doubt it has to be subsidized. They don't need extra B1 or B49 trips, they need a few drivers doing loops to and from the Brighton Line and the College, they can call it "B149", run it like a V, with the two stations being on the outer ends and the College being the vertex. |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 14:00:29 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 13:55:01 2012. Right, so why does the MTA think it needs to increase service on entire routes instead of doing what's necessary? |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 14:12:10 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 14:00:29 2012. Out of KBCC, there is more demand and it is necessary to increase the service since it pass a lot of middle & high schools, shopping areas nearby. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 14:15:35 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 13:59:16 2012. You really need to go to KBCC to see the madness. Your plan wont work. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 14:17:59 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Apr 11 13:28:10 2012. Its really not a safe cheese bus. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 14:25:41 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 14:15:35 2012. It won't work in addition to existing B1 and B41 service? |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 14:34:44 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 11 13:20:11 2012. School will be over in 5 weeks after the MTA adds B1 and B49 service - - too little, too late.Right. |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Apr 11 15:11:44 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 13:59:16 2012. With the amount of students using the bus, I doubt it has to be subsidized.It would likely need a subsidy because the majority of the passengers on these runs would probably be utilizing a free transfer from the subway. |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Apr 11 15:14:22 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 11 13:39:23 2012. The school buses discharge on College property, which is not permitted for the MTA.Why is this not permitted? Other transit authorities in the state operate on SUNY and community college property. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 15:29:17 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Apr 11 15:14:22 2012. lack of available space inside the campus, since MTA has dozens of buses traveled and parked at Manhattan Beach bus terminal during the day & night. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 16:01:24 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Apr 11 15:11:44 2012. Running loops would save a lot more money than increasing B1 and B49 service. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 11 16:31:07 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 15:29:17 2012. Not true. There is plenty of space. All they need to do is take a small portion of one of the parking lots or green area which the College is not willing to do. The MTA has been asking for this for years. They may have to unnecessarily spend money to enlarge the existing terminal a quarter mile from the closest building if enrollment keeps on increasing and that woud just be dumb. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 11 16:33:23 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 14:00:29 2012. They never said they would increase service for the entire line. Most likely most of the increases woud be shuttles although some full length buses may be necessary or maybe B49s to Empire. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 11 16:36:45 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 14:25:41 2012. During the peak hour, there are like 1500 kids coming out of the College. If a train comes to to Brighton Station, one minute after a train leaves, there are already 70 people waiting. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 17:11:44 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 11 16:36:45 2012. So wouldn't it be more cost effective to have buses looping between the College and the School as to providing overall service to the B1 and B49 lines? |
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Posted by David on Wed Apr 11 17:47:29 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 17:11:44 2012. If only the customer timetables effective April 8, 2012 were on the MTA website so you folks could see all of the short service on the B1 and B49 routes (especially the B1 route) operating between the college and the Brighton Beach/Sheepshead Bay subway stations.Oh, wait...they are! David |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 18:41:43 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by David on Wed Apr 11 17:47:29 2012. http://mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b001cur.pdfhttp://mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b049cur.pdf yeah, that's not that many. It looks like they try to use short turns to 86'th street on the B1's to serve Lincoln HS and the College in the same trips. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Apr 11 19:35:47 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 13:59:16 2012. I don't think loops would be a good idea. I think you just mean B1/B49 short-turns to Brighton Beach and Sheepshead Bay respectively. What use would you get out of running a bus from Sheepshead Bay to Brighton Beach (especially since the street grid doesn't line up too well in that area. I know because I used to live near there).And in any case, you could look at it in one of two ways. One way is that the students are using transfers, but the MTA should just serve it the same way they would serve any other large destination, even if it involves running a tremendous number of buses, but not getting and revenue from them because everybody transfers. The other way to look at it is that since KCC is responsible for the MTA sending out a whole bunch of buses without making money, they should subsidize some of their loss. |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Wed Apr 11 23:33:49 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 14:34:44 2012. PM B 49 Limited service or additional school supplement service to train stations were mention various times over the years not recent weeks, MTA trying to play PR does not work in April... I hope something gets resolved by the Fall pick. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 12 00:23:52 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 14:00:29 2012. That is why there are B1 short turns that only run to and from Ocean Parkway, and B49 sr abd hort-turns to and from Sheepshead Bay Station, from Kingsborough CC.Any solution to me should be for the fall pick...and CUNY needs to make it possible for MTA buses to enter and then turn around in the campus. Either that or CUNY needs to purchase shuttle buses similar to those used at CSI and then hire a contractor for the service...or make it a work-study assignment. |
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Posted by Dekatyou on Thu Apr 12 00:59:59 2012, in response to Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 12:28:37 2012. This bus is contracted by CUNY Kingsborough C. C for Brighton Beach station and Stillwell Avenue station.It IS not MTA problem, KIngsborough CC's problem. (Kingsborough CC choose operating shuttle.) In CUNY system, City College New York operates 2 shuttle route by itself (1 for 137th Street 1train, the other one for 145th St-St Nicholas.) Bronx CC also operates evening shuttle, using J&R Bus fleet. CSI (College of Staten Island) also operates for St George, operated by First Transit. |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Thu Apr 12 05:50:32 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Apr 11 18:41:43 2012. Is there supposed to be a dedicated trip for each student? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 12 10:22:22 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Dekatyou on Thu Apr 12 00:59:59 2012. But if the MTA provided enough buses, the shuttles wouldn't be necessary. On the other hand it isn't fair to ask to MTA to provide so much service without subsidy if in fact they are losing money on each trip although te buses are jam packed in one direction and get a seated load in th other mst of the time when school is open. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 10:47:24 2012, in response to Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Apr 11 12:28:37 2012. Kingsborough officials say they were only forced to hire the buses because the MTA refused to increase service to the campus. But the MTA says it never refused to add service and works closely with the college checking ridership numbers.So instead of giving the MTA the additional funds to provide additional dedicated service to the school and its students, it decides to hire its own contractor (who is using a poor choice of equipment for this service) and then complains about it? Why not give the MTA the money it's giving to SAFE Coach Bus Company as an additional subsidy and permit the buses to go onto the property? Am I missing something? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 12 12:55:06 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 10:47:24 2012. The MTA would charge them three times as much as Safe does. In other words, for every three round trips by Safe, the MTA would give them one. Also, the MTA cannot make illegal U Turns like Safe does and would have to West First Street. They also would have to pick up everyone and woud not be allowed to run direct non stop to the College. The students prefer Safe to the B1. If both come at the same time, they all choose Safe because it is direct and goes closer to the College. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Apr 12 16:55:23 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 10:47:24 2012. Yes, you are. An MTA bus is around $120/hour. Safe is probably around $40-50/hour. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Apr 12 18:47:08 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by JAzumah on Thu Apr 12 16:55:23 2012. How about this plan: Replace B49 service with B44 Limited service (daytime) B44 local (nights) by extending the B44 Limited (daytime)B44 (nights) from Avenue Z/Nostrand Avenue to the Sheepshead Bay Subway Station and than to the college. The B44 route would no longer serve Nostrand Avenue south of Avenue Z. Reroute the B49 to Ocean Parkway/Coney Island Hospital via Avenue Z and Shore Parkway. Extend the B4 from Coney Island Avenue/Avenue Z to KCC via Coney Island Avenue, Brighton Beach Avenue and Oriental Blvd. Reroute B36 east of the Sheepshead Bay Subway Station to Emmons Avenue between Sheepshead Bay Road and Knapp Street. |
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Posted by TheHat on Thu Apr 12 21:53:24 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by JAzumah on Thu Apr 12 16:55:23 2012. More like $142 per man hour, if not more. $142 is based on 2005 figures may be more, but not less. |
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Posted by FUTURE FLA B/O on Thu Apr 12 22:31:14 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Apr 12 18:47:08 2012. Easier said than done. What do you tell the people on Emmons Avenue who depend on the B44 direct service. Remember most Sheepshead customers that take the B44 disperse at Avenue U, to continue east or westbound crosstown, Kings Highway crosstown, and SUBWAY on the Junction..What needs to be done is to effectively INCREASE more headways and make the B49 a FULL TIME LIMITED 7AM-7PM Monday-Friday. I haven't been in sheepshead in YEARS so I won't throw my 2 cents in regards to the B4 and B36. BUT the B1 needs major structuring to deal with the headways for KCC. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Apr 12 23:47:01 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by FUTURE FLA B/O on Thu Apr 12 22:31:14 2012. Under my plan Emmons Avenue passengers can take the B36 to the Sheepshead Bay Subway Station and take the "B" "Q" subway lines to Atlantic Avenue/Flatbush Avenue Station and switch to the IRT subway line there or they can walk only four blocks north to Avenue Z to catch the B44 bus. |
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Posted by Dekatyou on Fri Apr 13 02:04:23 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Apr 12 10:22:22 2012. Kingsborough CC operates shuttle every 30 minutes with using 2 buses.This shuttle ONLY goes to Brighton Beach and Coney Island/Stillwell Av and only for students and faculty members. (No visitors) I do not think MTA NYCT can provide such special service.... (They DO NOT need extra regular NYCT bus. They NEED non-stop service to/from subway station.) |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 13 09:42:05 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by JAzumah on Thu Apr 12 16:55:23 2012. An MTA bus is around $120/hourDo they come with hors d'oeuvres for all the passengers and a complimentary newspaper? That is outrageous, and I would hope it would be much less if it was a long term contract... It really would be in everyone's best interest if they could come up with an agreement, because what's going on today is obviously not working... |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Apr 13 10:39:16 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Dekatyou on Fri Apr 13 02:04:23 2012. Not all buses go to Stillwell. There are two routes. Most make illegal U turn at Brighton 6 Street. Combined headways are more like every 15 minutes. |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Apr 13 20:30:22 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Apr 12 23:47:01 2012. The only flaw in that plan is that people who don't want to stand from Sheepshead Bay all the way to Manhattan would prefer to get a seat at the first stop of the IRT at the Junction than have to **possibly** get a seat at Sheepshead Bay, have to walk up and down stairs at Atlantic and then most likely stand the rest of the way on the IRT... |
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Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Sat Apr 14 12:06:49 2012, in response to Re: Kingsborough C. C. Students Leap Out Of Private Buses' Emergency Exits Onto Brooklyn Streets, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Apr 13 20:30:22 2012. To access the east side sheepshead Bay passengers can take the Q train to Union Square to transfer to the IRT subway lines there. In the future after the Broadway Lafayette transfer work is completed Sheepshead Bay passengers an take the "B' train and transfer to both uptown and downtown IRT #6 line at the Broadway Lafayette Station. At Atlantic Flatbush Avenue Sheepshead Bay passengers can transfer to the "R", 2,3, 4, & % to get to downtown Manhattan. Hopefully soom they'll be extending the "J" line from Broad street to 9th Avenue, Brooklyn providing additional service to Lower Manhattan. |
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