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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Sun Apr 1 18:01:39 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. Braking is done by the operator. If the brakes are sharp then the operator has to make his adjustment to how much pressure is applied to the pedal to allow for better stopping of the bus. |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by TheHat on Sun Apr 1 18:15:08 2012, in response to Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Sun Apr 1 18:01:39 2012. Or a bad brake reline, even automatic slack adjusters need adjustment. |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 1 19:40:58 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. Wow these have ZFs? |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by futurekbarticop on Sun Apr 1 19:53:41 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. It's not the operator. The retarder hesistates before it kicks in. The takeoff is horrid. The transmission is very jerky. The steering wheel doesn't tilt down enough for short operators or operators who sit low. I agree, the bus would be AMAZING if it had the Allison Tranny. |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by futurekbarticop on Sun Apr 1 19:53:43 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. It's not the operator. The retarder hesistates before it kicks in. The takeoff is horrid. The transmission is very jerky. The steering wheel doesn't tilt down enough for short operators or operators who sit low. I agree, the bus would be AMAZING if it had the Allison Tranny. |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Apr 1 20:02:03 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. The only thing I don't like about these buses is the seating setup sucks for tall people, I wish the seats was like the late model OG & NG hybrids, with the U shaped seating. Tall people can only fit in the last row or first forward facing seats in the front of the bus. |
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Posted by Mack C-49 on Sun Apr 1 21:36:00 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. Haven't ridden in one of this newest set of Orions, or even been inside one, but from the outside, the windows look like a step backward in design from the windows on the last set of new gens. Too bad. The windows on the earlier new gens are better looking. |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by Bx36Ltd on Sun Apr 1 21:36:25 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. It mabe the retarder switch. on the the nabi's wen u step off the gas it kicks it hard which can make it jerk bad |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by grand concourse on Sun Apr 1 23:25:37 2012, in response to Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Apr 1 20:02:03 2012. But most people don't bother to go to the back to stand leaving unused space and people crowding towards the front section.imo, The seating on the OG CNGs were very good, 2x2 rear seating and a partial u shape seating. Let ppl get more seats in the back and free up some space at the front. |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Apr 2 12:18:58 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. I do agree with you about the ZF EcoLife transmission, it makes the ride jerky as hell, just like the Novas 8015-8089. Would be good to give them Allison transmissions, otherwise I don't mind the Third Gens...blows the Next Gen HEV's out the dust any day. |
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Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Apr 2 12:20:17 2012, in response to Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 1 19:40:58 2012. Yes they do. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Mon Apr 2 15:01:47 2012, in response to Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Apr 1 20:02:03 2012. 7000-789 seats are fine for 6'4" guy. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Apr 2 19:07:58 2012, in response to MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 17:45:12 2012. They creak. A LOT. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 2 23:14:22 2012, in response to Re: MTA's Orion VII EPA10 diesel: #7000-7089 critique, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Apr 1 20:02:03 2012. The rear seating is the standard seating on the O7 NG/3G model. NICE's 1800s also have the standard seating pattern. That is why the O7 3Gs have 38 seats as opposed to only 34 for the XD40s and 33 for the LFSs and C40LFs. |
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