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when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by caine515 on Sun Apr 1 19:30:59 2012

I took the B100 today and noticed they were running the New Flyer out there(#506 and #492) but the one i was on the farbox wasnt working. When i asked the driver what the depot said when he called it in he was told "keep it running".
I'm assuming that SC has spare buses on a sunday so getting another bus out to him wouldn't be so hard. He had run #002 so wouldn't it make sense to get the other bus to him instead of him running free all day(he said he was out there till 8pm).

B100-#492-New Flyer
B3-#9416-NOVABUS
B44LTD-#9659-NOVABUS

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Apr 1 19:38:24 2012, in response to when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by caine515 on Sun Apr 1 19:30:59 2012.

May have spare buses but possibly no spare operators. Has happened to me.The emphasis was always on providing timely service, not collecting fares. If it is a heavily-used line, it is a real problem for the operator as he/she has to tell each and every passenger boarding in front the box is broken. Some passengers have even tried to give me the fare.....

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Apr 1 19:44:29 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Apr 1 19:38:24 2012.

The surprise is that run #1002 would be out that late - as a bus that's the second pullout for that route, I would expect it to be relieved by a #104x run before then. (Spring Creek now uses the LGA run numbering system with a few tweaks.)

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by grand concourse on Sun Apr 1 23:29:01 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Apr 1 19:38:24 2012.

Some b/os (from what I saw) would 'print up' a few of those ppr MC transfers and stick it in the MC slot to indicate the machine was broken.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Apr 2 01:18:30 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by grand concourse on Sun Apr 1 23:29:01 2012.

Then the passengers would try to take them out and insert their own. If you aren't an Bus Operator, you wouldn't see many of the things the passengers do and try to do. The human mind is limitless.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 2 07:29:24 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Apr 2 01:18:30 2012.

How about if every bus had one of those cloth farebox covers that they used on the shuttles when the Lenox Avenue IRT was closed?

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Apr 2 08:12:42 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by merrick1 on Mon Apr 2 07:29:24 2012.

Some operators CARRY a folded garbage bag in their bags. Easier than trying to find something to cover where the coins go. I've had people remove stuff that I had jamming the coin slot to deposit their fare! Now, I just whip out the bag, and bag it and tag it!

STILL
LOL@FAREBOX BODY BAGS

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Apr 2 08:17:41 2012, in response to when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by caine515 on Sun Apr 1 19:30:59 2012.

IF they were following protocol, (and that's a BIG if) the bus stays in service until a swap can be arranged. Either a spare operator brings a bus out or his relief pulls out instead of making a road relief. But a bus with a defective farebox should not remain out all day, and the days of taking a bus out of service for that are long gone.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by caine515 on Mon Apr 2 09:42:51 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Apr 1 19:44:29 2012.

the only other runs i saw were on bus #506(had run 041) and Orion VII #3620(layover at e 16th and Kings Hwy with run xx1)

B1-#5093-NOVABUS
S93LTD-#4888-New Flyer

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Apr 2 12:14:52 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Apr 2 08:12:42 2012.

Lmao!!!

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Mon Apr 2 14:24:36 2012, in response to when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by caine515 on Sun Apr 1 19:30:59 2012.

Is there a reason you put the operator's run number on a public forum?

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Apr 3 07:20:27 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Apr 2 01:18:30 2012.

I hated driving Buses with out a working F/B. You right Joe, I would type a piece of paper over both the coins and Metrocar Slots and people would still try to pay, and for those who were paying with coin then would ask me for a transfer.

The problem on this F/B must have been with the MatroCard slot, becouse if it was with the coins the F/B could still be used but he counter would be put into ByPass. Coins would just drop down and not be counted. The B/O is supose to hit a botton deneding on what type of fair was put in. Unless they change the rules since I left in 2000.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Tue Apr 3 08:20:44 2012, in response to when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by caine515 on Sun Apr 1 19:30:59 2012.

Dude instead of complianing about it just be grateful that the farebox
broke and you have a free ride.



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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by LRG5784 on Tue Apr 3 09:51:57 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Tue Apr 3 08:20:44 2012.

Yeah although the MTA will always find another way to get their money back, e.g. when you board another bus.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 3 09:58:08 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Tue Apr 3 08:20:44 2012.



Dude instead of complianing about it just be grateful that the farebox broke and you have a free ride.

No. He's asking a valid question. Even if it turns out that it does make the most sense to leave the bus/farebox in revenue service for an extended period of time, at least he'll be informed of the reasons why and he'll be better off because of it. Furthermore, we should not be grateful when the farebox breaks and we get a free ride. Our ride costs money to provide and we should be paying our share. (That said, the transit agency should also be doing its part to provide us with the quality of service it has promised.) If we think we see something that is unnecessarily causing the agency to collect less revenue than it could, then there's no reason not to bring it up.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 3 09:59:16 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by LRG5784 on Tue Apr 3 09:51:57 2012.



Yeah

No.

although the MTA will always find another way to get their money back, e.g. when you board another bus.

Huh? What if you were only taking a trip involving a single bus?

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by caine515 on Tue Apr 3 11:53:23 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Tue Apr 3 08:20:44 2012.

first of all i wasnt complaing i was asking a question. That is what this site is for.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by caine515 on Tue Apr 3 11:54:43 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Apr 3 07:20:27 2012.

Im wondering with the farebox issues what do other bus companies do in this situation. For instance, Suffolk, NJTransit, HART or NICE. Do they get another bus if possible?

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by Kahlua on Tue Apr 3 12:37:28 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by caine515 on Tue Apr 3 11:54:43 2012.

On ST the driver has you insert the fare in to the lock-box that is next to the farebox...

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by Jimbo Kalin on Thu Apr 5 14:31:31 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Kahlua on Tue Apr 3 12:37:28 2012.

ST = Suffolk Transit ?
I've been with a private operator of Suffolk Transit for 29 years. Never saw a lock box on a Suffolk Transit bus.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by mac5689 on Thu Apr 5 20:44:32 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by caine515 on Tue Apr 3 11:54:43 2012.

Farebox break downs on ST buses are rare, I believe, the last time I recall hearing about a bus having fare box trouble T operator of the bus replaced it.

I was on a ST bus that had a broken down fare box once back in the 90's, I got off before it recahed the end of the route, so I don't know if they replaced the bus or if a machanic was sent to try and fix it.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by merrick1 on Fri Apr 6 20:18:31 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by caine515 on Tue Apr 3 11:54:43 2012.

Triboro had metal box with a slot in the top bolted to the dashboard. You just put your fare in the box.

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 9 09:33:42 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Jimbo Kalin on Thu Apr 5 14:31:31 2012.

Interesting...

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Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??

Posted by mac5689 on Mon Apr 9 11:37:50 2012, in response to Re: when farebox no work on a sunday..get a new one??, posted by Jimbo Kalin on Thu Apr 5 14:31:31 2012.

Hopefully he wasn't on a bus were the driver was stealing the fares, heard that happen once.

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