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Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Fri Mar 23 21:33:44 2012

According to the Megabus site, service begins next week. It's a piggyback on the existing Suburban service.

This is a double edged sword. It's targeted towards students at Princeton and Rutgers going to New York. Ultimately though this may also attract commuters and skim the margins Suburban makes.

Is it a good idea? Yes, but they have to be very, very careful here.

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by JAzumah on Fri Mar 23 22:42:23 2012, in response to Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Fri Mar 23 21:33:44 2012.

Megabus will price out the commuters. Commuters aren't interested in booking two weeks in advance for EACH trip.

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by Dekatyou on Sat Mar 24 00:09:09 2012, in response to Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Fri Mar 23 21:33:44 2012.

Both stops will be good for college students.

Both Rutgers and Princeton students can get cheap travel to northeast cities via New York.





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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Mar 24 00:37:21 2012, in response to Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by JAzumah on Fri Mar 23 22:42:23 2012.

You could make a case for Bolt and Cherry Hill - many are known to book in advance.

Actually, the bigger issue may involve the Township of East Brunswick - if it's found that through the cross-sell that they take away seats from passengers at Neilsen, that could be grounds for breach of contract.

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Mar 24 01:14:58 2012, in response to Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Mar 24 00:37:21 2012.

Won't happen. I don't see the flow affecting rush hour operations.

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sat Mar 24 17:48:58 2012, in response to Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Fri Mar 23 21:33:44 2012.

Hmmm...so they're not really expanding into completely virgin waters....just areas that Coach USA is at in some way or form...I think I'm safe still

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Mar 25 01:21:11 2012, in response to Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Fri Mar 23 21:33:44 2012.

Never mind the affect on Suburban Transit's service, I'd be interested in the impact on NJT's Northeast Corridor line. I'm sure Princeton would be a logical market for Megabus to expand into, given that you have to take the "Dinky" to get to the NEC, but New Brunswick might be a little hairy.

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by Dekatyou on Sun Mar 25 10:58:28 2012, in response to Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Mar 25 01:21:11 2012.

It is also good for NJ Transit.

They can reduce human cost (conductors) and some regular passengers can get empty seat from midpoint stations.

There are TOO many student riders from Princeton Junction and New Brunswick, especially Friday afternoon.



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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 25 20:14:12 2012, in response to Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Mar 25 01:21:11 2012.

The have moved in on a opportunity as Amtrak has all but abandoned New Brunswick, and has skeletal service at PJC, costing 32% of that stations Amtrak loadings when they removed the day time service a few years ago.

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Mar 26 19:05:20 2012, in response to Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 25 20:14:12 2012.

Intercity carriers are not the smartest at times. College folk are a lucrative market on Fridays/Sundays and sometimes Thursdays/Mondays. But hey, they're leaving the door wide open for me so I'm not complaining

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 1 16:52:20 2012, in response to Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Mar 25 01:21:11 2012.

I'd be interested in the impact on NJT's Northeast Corridor line

If NJTR keeps slowing down the average speed of their trains, then the bus could siphon off significant ridership.

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 1 17:03:02 2012, in response to Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 1 16:52:20 2012.

I think they saw an opportunity that Amtrak has dissed both New Brunswick and Princeton Jct to get off the local tracks. NJT commuters will not use it, and occasional riders will not be impressed with their fares unless they book way ahead.

Stupid of Amtrak. I did a before / after ridership analysis 3 or 4 years ago when they cut service there 67%. They lost 32% of their loadings, and they did not re-appear at either Metropark nor Trenton. (The earlier discontinuance of the Clockers had nothing to do with it). That is one University market Amtrak doesn't give a shit about. Its Ivy League students are more apt from being out of state than Rutgers ones at New Brunswick.

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Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Apr 2 12:14:38 2012, in response to Re: Megabus now goes to New Brunswick and Princeton, posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 1 17:03:02 2012.

You're right, take a look at the stats on collegeboard.com. Tons more out of staters at Princeton than at Rutgers.

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