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Volunteers wanted to assist us! |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Feb 27 10:40:04 2012 Good morning,We are currently working in Northeast Queens on efforts to bring Lower Manhattan service on the QM20 Express Bus. Right now we are beginning a petition drive in our area and we need volunteers to come out and help us out with conducting our petition drive. We currently are in need of volunteers for our petition drive which will be held at the Bay Terrace Shopping Center in Bayside on Sat 3/10 from 10AM-6PM; Sun 3/11 from 10AM-7PM; and Sun 3/18 from 10AM-7PM. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone is interested and if anyone is interested in helping us out, please email me at bounadhanhic (at) yahoo (dot) com. Thank you very much and best regards to all. |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Feb 27 10:44:05 2012, in response to Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Feb 27 10:40:04 2012. Also stipends will be offered. |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Tue Feb 28 06:51:32 2012, in response to Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Feb 27 10:44:05 2012. We have two additional dates where we are looking for volunteersFriday 3/9 from 3PM-8PM at 57th Street and 3rd Avenue in Manhattan Monday 3/12 from 3PM-8PM at 57th Street and 3rd Avenue in Manhattan Again stipends will be offered. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 28 13:30:49 2012, in response to Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Tue Feb 28 06:51:32 2012. You should also try http://www.nyctransitforums.com and http://www.straphangers.org/diaries/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=12&page=1 |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Tue Feb 28 13:53:10 2012, in response to Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 28 13:30:49 2012. thanks |
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Posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 28 14:09:09 2012, in response to Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 28 13:30:49 2012. A know a guy named Famous New York Lover who would probably want to volunteer. He posts at NYC Transitforums and (sometimes)here. |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Tue Feb 28 14:11:39 2012, in response to Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by PATHman on Tue Feb 28 14:09:09 2012. Yuki has volunteered with us before, but we need some more people though. |
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Posted by caine515 on Tue Feb 28 18:18:07 2012, in response to Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Tue Feb 28 06:51:32 2012. im in for the 11th and emailed you. stipend please. |
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QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Tue Feb 28 19:56:02 2012, in response to Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Feb 27 10:40:04 2012. [We are currently working in Northeast Queens on efforts to bring Lower Manhattan service on the QM20 Express Bus.] Just to play "Devil's Advocate" for a minute... - Do you have some measure of the actual demand for Wall Street trips? - If there were sufficient demand for Bayside-to-Wall-Street service, wouldn't it already have manifested itself on the busier QM2? - Have you asked MTA Bus Company for MetroCard data showing transfers from the subway (Lower Manhattan stations) to the QM20, or from the BxM18 to the QM20? |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Tue Feb 28 20:30:40 2012, in response to Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by caine515 on Tue Feb 28 18:18:07 2012. Stipends will be given at the event. Thanks for volunteering. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 28 23:28:17 2012, in response to Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Tue Feb 28 14:11:39 2012. LOL Yuki is world famous. Niiice. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Feb 29 00:04:52 2012, in response to QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Tue Feb 28 19:56:02 2012. I think the flyering will help to determine if Downtown customers are using the QM20 now. It is possible that those customers are already taking the QM2, but would prefer the QM20. I think that the idea that the MTA would be able to measure demand for new service through existing data is logical, but is not always the case. For example, there is demand for express bus service from the Rockaways to Lower Manhattan, but there has to be a critical mass of service (2 round trips per day minimum) for enough ridership to be attracted to it. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Wed Feb 29 02:58:01 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by JAzumah on Wed Feb 29 00:04:52 2012. Out of curiousty if there is a demand for a QM 20 to Wall St? How would MTA justify the cost? The way I see it I would either utilized the low used QM 3 or eliminate the QM 3 and use those runs as Downtown runs...Also in the case of Lower Manhattan - Rockaways service, when you say "critical mass of service", would MTA being judging this by the current ridership levels of the QM 16 and QM 17? To be honest with the MTA taking a gamble on the possible grown in Arverne by rerouting the Q 21 and adding a limited, I would feel they should do the same with a BM6 route by having an express route from Arverne to Lower Manhattan. Justfiy the cost by eliminating the BM 1 or BM 3 (or both routes) Lower Manhattan service and replacing it with a BM 6. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Feb 29 05:41:04 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by B49 Limited on Wed Feb 29 02:58:01 2012. [Out of curiousty if there is a demand for a QM 20 to Wall St? How would MTA justify the cost?] That was why I pointed out the BxM18 transfer privilege. It functions as a cheap-to-operate Lower Manhattan "extension" for the Queens express routes that have some demand for it but not enough to warrant dedicated trips. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Feb 29 05:57:37 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by JAzumah on Wed Feb 29 00:04:52 2012. [I think the flyering will help to determine if Downtown customers are using the QM20 now.] The flyering will definitely determine the number of people who CLAIM to want Downtown service. Back in 1991, the Transportation Research Board published a paper ("Relationship Between Surveyed Behavioral Intent and Actual Behavior", http://pubsindex.trb.org/view.aspx?id=359624) summarizing a survey of college students in Miami as to their projected use of the MetroRail system. All of the "No" and "Maybe" respondents ended up not riding (no surprise there). In addition, about 75% of the "Yes" respondents ended up not riding. (They had answered "Yes" only because they thought it was what the researchers wanted to hear.) |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Wed Feb 29 08:01:15 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by JAzumah on Wed Feb 29 00:04:52 2012. Another issue is a lot of people from Northeast Queens are driving to Fresh Meadows for QM7 and QM8 service as well. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Wed Feb 29 08:20:16 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Feb 29 05:41:04 2012. We did an informal observation on the BxM18 transfer privelege and we found that almost no one from ANY Queens express bus made the transfer to the BxM18. But, still if you ride a QM2 or a QM20 you will see about half the bus empty out at 34th Street and Park Avenue and 6th Avenue and 35th Street for the Subway to go Downtown. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Wed Feb 29 08:36:27 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Feb 29 05:41:04 2012. We did an informal observation on the BxM18 transfer privelege and we found that almost no one from ANY Queens express bus made the transfer to the BxM18. But, still if you ride a QM2 or a QM20 you will see about half the bus empty out at 34th Street and Park Avenue and 6th Avenue and 35th Street for the Subway to go Downtown. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Feb 29 11:00:19 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Feb 29 05:41:04 2012. You're allowed to transfer between any two express routes, not just between a Queens/Bronx route and the BxM18. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Feb 29 11:57:33 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by B49 Limited on Wed Feb 29 02:58:01 2012. Downtown Rockaway folks would be lost in the data with the Q35 and 2 train. You would have some PM peak data with the boarding station and transfers to the Q35. Is Gotham volunteering to get that data? :) |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Feb 29 12:01:09 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Feb 29 05:57:37 2012. They could just hire a private bus company to do it. If the MTA's position is to provide as little service as possible, then that would be the obvious solution. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Wed Feb 29 12:11:10 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by JAzumah on Wed Feb 29 11:57:33 2012. Ours would be lost as well because as I said before, a lot of people from Northeast Queens drive to the QM7 and QM8. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Wed Feb 29 12:16:26 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by JAzumah on Wed Feb 29 12:01:09 2012. If a private bus company was hired to run the service, TWU would probably put up a huge fight over it as the QM20 is one of the more desirable express bus route to work at College Point. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Wed Feb 29 12:18:38 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by Bounad Hanhic on Wed Feb 29 12:16:26 2012. Just so I could show you all the seniority on the QM20, all of the QM20 AM straight runs are held by guys with over 25 years of driving. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Wed Feb 29 22:33:10 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by Bounad Hanhic on Wed Feb 29 12:11:10 2012. So how do you resolve that? Seems to me there is too many variables and a full study should be done in both areas. |
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Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!) |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Thu Mar 1 00:14:25 2012, in response to Re: QM20 Wall Street (Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us!), posted by B49 Limited on Wed Feb 29 22:33:10 2012. You also have a lot of people who drive in from Nassau for the QM7 and QM8 as well. |
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Re: Volunteers wanted to assist us! |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Mar 5 07:30:51 2012, in response to Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Feb 27 10:40:04 2012. We have additional dates where volunteers are needed3/12, 3/13/ 3/14, 3/15 from 3 PM - 8 PM at either the 57th Street and 3rd Avenue stop or the 6th Avenue and 35th Street stop. Thanks to all those who have offered to volunteer. |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Thu Mar 8 08:23:02 2012, in response to Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Feb 27 10:40:04 2012. Once again, anyone else want to join in to volunteer for our petition drive at Bay Terrace Shopping Center on 3/10 from 10AM-6PM and 3/11 from 10AM-7PM. We have two days until 3/10 and there is still time for us to squeeze people in. Again thanks to those who have already volunteered for us and we really appreciate it. |
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Posted by Bounad Hanhic on Sat Mar 17 15:43:48 2012, in response to Volunteers wanted to assist us!, posted by Bounad Hanhic on Mon Feb 27 10:40:04 2012. We are in need of volunteers to come out for our petition drive to the Q15, Q16, and Q28 bus stops in Downtown Flushing this Friday 3/23 from 3 PM - 8 PM. Thanks to all of those who have volunteered and to those who hopefully will volunteer. |
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