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The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 15:53:23 2012

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And this is just on the O7 first generation fleet.

Original scheme (as shown on 3713):


First repaint scheme with painted doors


Extra window trim added


Window trim deleted for the first time



Blank front introduced with window trim and blank doors



Blank front introduced with no window trim


Front stripe comes back with window trim and blank doors



Front stripe retained but with the window trim removed.



That's seven different liveries on a fleet of 1,082 buses (3 O7s retired). Why not just settle on one paint scheme?

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by Brett on Mon Feb 27 16:23:35 2012, in response to The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 15:53:23 2012.

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They retired some O7s already? Is that because some of them caught fire?

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 17:10:55 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by Brett on Mon Feb 27 16:23:35 2012.

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All of them were fire casualties.

BTW, 2 are confirmed scrap and the third is 3548 which had a pretty bad fire.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 27 17:51:10 2012, in response to The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 15:53:23 2012.

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Paerdegat 3 Street?

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 18:04:27 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 27 17:51:10 2012.

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In Canarsie off East 80 Street.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by grand concourse on Mon Feb 27 18:08:24 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 17:10:55 2012.

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Was it the depot's fault or are O7's prone to catch fire?

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 18:09:40 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by grand concourse on Mon Feb 27 18:08:24 2012.

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Not sure---but 3 of 1085 is really just happenstance. Each of them was at a different garage.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by grand concourse on Mon Feb 27 18:11:53 2012, in response to The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 15:53:23 2012.

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1st 3 are what they should have. I don't like the front without the blue stripe on it. And I don't really like the all white paint at the back.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by B53RICH on Mon Feb 27 18:31:57 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 17:10:55 2012.

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Was 6822 one of them? Saw this in tow last week heading east on LIE.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 18:42:26 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by B53RICH on Mon Feb 27 18:31:57 2012.

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6822 was likely being towed for service only.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Mon Feb 27 19:08:48 2012, in response to The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 15:53:23 2012.

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6824 IMO has the best look of the OrionVII old gens.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by B53RICH on Mon Feb 27 19:34:21 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 18:42:26 2012.

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OK, thanks. Atlantic Diesel perhaps.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 27 21:12:35 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 27 17:51:10 2012.

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Imagine trying to get a pizza delivered there....

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Feb 27 21:50:35 2012, in response to The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 15:53:23 2012.

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>>>>That's seven different liveries on a fleet of 1,082 buses (3 O7s retired). <<<

Minor variations, that most of the public do not notice or give 2 shits about, hardly qualify as seven different liveries. Bus foamers....nit pickers to the Nth degree. Here's a project for you.....count them, put then into a spreadsheet and give us a PowerPoint presentation. But you've, no doubt, already are 1/2 way through that. SMH

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by grand concourse on Mon Feb 27 22:15:41 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 18:09:40 2012.

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Were they built about the same year?

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 22:24:28 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by grand concourse on Mon Feb 27 22:15:41 2012.

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The CNGs are from between 2002 and 2005. The hybrids are from between 2003 and 2007.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by grand concourse on Mon Feb 27 23:28:08 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 22:24:28 2012.

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Hem, so it is either random or the depot's fault then. Then again, I hope this isn't a sign of things to come.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by Mr RT on Tue Feb 28 08:42:36 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Feb 27 21:50:35 2012.

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My thoughts exactly !

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by G1RavagesDad on Tue Feb 28 09:16:16 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by G1Ravage on Mon Feb 27 17:51:10 2012.

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It's a block from Paerdegat 4th Street.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by RailBus63 on Tue Feb 28 12:27:15 2012, in response to Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by grand concourse on Mon Feb 27 23:28:08 2012.

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I doubt it's a design issue. It's not uncommon to have this happen when a TA operates a large fleet of the same bus model. Boston's MBTA had a rash of RTS fires a few years back. Every one was found to have a different cause.

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Re: The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme)

Posted by orionviidieselbus on Tue Feb 28 18:38:27 2012, in response to The MTA - going every which way (with the paint scheme), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 27 15:53:23 2012.

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I prefer the 2nd one better!

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