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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 13:01:20 2012, in response to $7.3 million OKed for downtown ‘bus rapid transit’ in Chicago, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Feb 25 12:12:09 2012. It is still a stinkin' bus which is why the concept is a failure in North America. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Feb 25 22:13:38 2012, in response to Re: $7.3 million OKed for downtown ‘bus rapid transit’ in Chicago, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 13:01:20 2012. It works if you do it right:-Dedicated, vigorously enforced bus lanes with traffic signal priority -A VERY CLEAR map showing the line in context with the areas it serves -Infrequent stops [a local/express scenario works best here]. -Comfortable accommodation. Either: ·Normal size buses at high frequency, ie: every 3 minutes peak, 6 off peak. or ·Large (artic) buses at reasonable frequency, ie: every 5 minutes peak, 10 off peak. If you get cheap on frequency, this is also needed: -Climate controlled waiting areas at major stops. Buses start off with the disadvantage that they are, at best, on the same road that a motorist would take for their commute. Often times the route is more indirect than the most efficient way from A to B. Add in the fact that they have to stop for other people, you may wait a long time in the cold /heat for one to eventually show up (especially since the schedule is often a loose guideline), and many times they are crowded enough that there are standees. Parking and gas would need to be absolutely terrible for the bus to win over driving yourself. But, if BRT systems do what I said above, suddenly it becomes nicer than driving. It looks like Chicago is going with dedicated bus lanes. If the frequency is good and the lines are shown on the map as clearly as the subway, it might work. |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Feb 26 01:34:42 2012, in response to Re: $7.3 million OKed for downtown ‘bus rapid transit’ in Chicago, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 13:01:20 2012. It works well down in Orlando with the Lymmo. As a matter of fact we are expanding it with the the expansion to be completed sometime in 2013. Why can't it work in Chicago? |
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