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NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012 Our goal is to deliver the best transit system that Nassau County can afford. Our contract with the County requires that bus service levels be adjusted to the available funds by early April.To achieve this goal, NICE is proposing a series of service adjustments to be effective on April 8th. The changes are carefully designed to impact the fewest possible passengers and are far less than those proposed by the MTA last year. The proposed plan also includes many improvements and additions, two new Express routes, no elimination of routes and no fare increases. Why Do These Changes Have To Be Made? NICE must balance the concerns of riders and taxpayers by operating the best transit system that Nassau County can afford. The proposed adjustments and improvements represent our best judgment for using the budget we have to deliver the maximum amount of service possible and not increase fares. Our proposal is based on a very careful analysis of how riders use the system. We studied travel patterns for months, counted passengers on all routes and all stops during all parts of the day, and talked to many riders. There are many positives in our plan: --- We are adding two new Express routes (n6X and n22X) to make it faster to get to the 179th Street subway station in Jamaica in rush hours. There’s no extra charge for riding an Express bus. --- We are improving the N22L and many other routes. --- We are adding running times on busy routes so schedules synch up and people can make better connections. --- We are coordinating schedules better with the LIRR. --- Service to Mercy Medical Center will be restored. --- There is no increase in fares. --- No routes are being eliminated. While we regret having to propose changes that will affect some of our passengers, we worked very hard to make intelligent changes that would impact the fewest people. For example, we propose to adjust and reconfigure routes that are the least used, in the times of the day when they are the least used. Why? Because buses that are mostly empty are very expensive to operate. By adjusting these routes, and making small changes to several other routes, we will not have to cancel any routes. This is far superior to the MTA plan that would have cancelled 26 routes. Since NICE bus began operating on January 1, there have been significant improvements, including service that is more reliable and more on time. We will continue to improve with each passing month. Our goal is to offer our customers the maximum amount of service possible with the funds that are available from fares and Federal, State and County subsidies. Service Improvements - Proposed to be Effective April 8th, 2012 n4: Based on customer feedback and independent research, all trips will operate from Jamaica to Freeport. n6 Express: This new express route will replace the N6L and will operate from Hempstead Transit Center to the 179th Street/Hillside Avenue Subway Station in Jamaica. The bus will make limited stops in Hempstead then run express between Westminster Road and 179th Street. We believe that commuters will really appreciate this new express service to the 179th Street subway station! Service will operate every 10 minutes. For customers traveling west of 179th Street in Jamaica or to local stops between Hempstead and 165th Street Terminal, please use the n6 local. ---Click here to view video of proposed n6 changes: English n6 Local: Based on customer feedback and independent research, running time will be added on the n6. Also, to reduce crowding between 7pm and 8pm, additional trips will operate eastbound to Hempstead. n17: This new route will offer restored service to Mercy Medical Center running from Rockville Centre and the Hempstead Transit Center. n20/21: Based on customer feedback and independent research, running time will be added on the n20/21. n22 Express: This new express route will run between Hicksville and Jamaica and will make local stops between Hicksville and Roosevelt Field. The route will then run express to the 179th Street/Hillside Avenue Subway station in Jamaica. From 179th, it will make all local stops to the 165th Street Bus Terminal. Click here to view video of proposed n22 changes: English, Español n22 Limited: Will no longer operate via Old Country Road and Mineola Blvd between Hicksville and Jamaica to provide a faster trip. For service along the corridor, please use the n22 local or express. n25: Based on customer feedback and independent research, running time changes and additional resources will be added to the route to improve on time performance. n40/41: Based on customer feedback and independent research, additional northbound trips will be added on the n40/41 between 8am and 9am to reduce crowding. n43: Midday service and Saturday service will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 45. Weekday service to Hempstead Transit Center will also be added. ---Click here to view video of proposed n43 changes: English, Español ---Click here to view map of proposed n43 changes ---Download map of proposed n43 changes n72: Based on customer feedback and independent research, additional westbound trips will be added at the start of service. Service Changes -Proposed to be Effective April 8th, 2012 n2/n8: These two routes will be combined to run in a loop as described below: n2: The n2 will travel along its current route from Covert Avenue to Green Acres Mall but instead of turning around at the mall, it will continue along the n8’s route northwards up Hook Creek Blvd, Dutch Broadway and then back to Covert Avenue. n8: The n8 will no longer run along Franklin Avenue. Service will begin at Covert Avenue along with the n2 and continue west on Dutch Broadway and Hook Creek Road toward the Green Acres Mall. From the Mall, the n8 will continue eastwards towards the Valley Stream LIRR and follow the n2 route back to Covert Avenue. ---Click here to view video of proposed n2/n8 changes: English, Español ---Click here to view map of proposed n2/n8 changes ---Download map of proposed n2/n8 changes n4: Peak service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 7.5, in both directions. All trips will operate from Jamaica to Freeport eastbound and Freeport to Jamaica westbound. n6 Local: Peak service will operate every 10 minutes in both directions. n6 midday and Saturday service will now operate every 12 minutes instead of every 10, in both directions. Additional service will be provided eastbound between 7pm and 8pm to reduce crowding. n14: Morning service will operate every 20 to 25 minutes, timed to the express trains from Rockville Centre to Penn Station. Afternoon service will operate every 20 to 25 minutes, timed to the express trains arriving at Rockville Centre from Penn Station. n15: Midday and Saturday service will operate every 20 minutes instead of 15. n16: Stops between Rockville Centre and Silver Lake will be discontinued. Trips that only operate between Hempstead and Roosevelt Field will be eliminated. They will be replaced by the n43 that will be extended to Hempstead. ---Click here to view video of proposed n16 changes: English, Español ---Click here to view map of proposed n16 changes ---Download map of proposed n16 changes n19: Peak service will operate every 30 to 40 minutes instead of every 20 to 30 minutes. Midday service will run every 60 minutes instead of every 30. Saturday service will operate every 60 minutes instead of every 30. n20: Peak service will operate every 5 to 10 minutes. Midday and Saturday service will run every 20 minutes from Great Neck/Roslyn to Flushing. Saturday service to Hicksville will not change. The n20 Sunday service will run every 30 minutes from Great Neck/Roslyn to Flushing. Hicksville service will still operate every 60 minutes. Please consult your schedule for departure changes. n21: This service will operate peak hours only. For service midday, nights and weekends, please use the n27 with a timed transfer to reach the n20 at Glen Cove Road/Northern Blvd. n23: Peak service will operate between Manorhaven and the Mineola Intermodal Center. Service will not be available at stops along Willis Avenue between Hillside Avenue and Mineola during mid-day, nights and weekends. The n23 will instead run on Roslyn Road south of Hillside Avenue along the n27 route to Roosevelt Field and Hempstead. Midday trips will operate into 60 Charles Lindbergh. For service to Mineola during these off peak hours, please transfer to the n22 at Hillside/Willis Avenues. ---Click here to view video of proposed n23 changes: English, Español ---Click here to view map of proposed n23 changes ---Download map of proposed n23 changes n24: A new branch will operate to Hicksville LIRR via Old Country Road. Service to 60 Charles Lindbergh will be eliminated. Peak service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 10, in both directions. Buses will alternate between Hicksville LIRR and East Meadow. Midday service will operate every 30 minutes between Hicksville and Jamaica via Roosevelt Field and Mineola Intermodal Center. Service to East Meadow will only operate during the peak, for midday service please use the N51. Service to 60 Charles Lindbergh Blvd will be available via transfer to the n16, n23 (midday)/n27 (peak). Please consult your schedule. ---Click here to view video of proposed n24 changes: English, Español ---Click here to view map of proposed n24 changes ---Download map of proposed n24 changes n27: Peak service will operate between Glen Cove and Hempstead. Midday, night and weekend service will only operate between Glen Cove and Roslyn LIRR. For service midday, nights and weekends between Roslyn LIRR and Roosevelt Field/Hempstead, please transfer to the n23 at Roslyn LIRR. Stops along Roslyn Road between Roslyn LIRR and Hillside Avenue will not have service during these times. Some n27 trips will operate into 60 Charles Lindbergh. ---Click here to view video of proposed n27 changes: English, Español ---Click here to view map of proposed n27 changes ---Download map of proposed n27 changes n31/32: Midday service on this combined route will be available every 20 minutes instead of every 15. n45: This service will operate during peak hours only. Saturday service will be discontinued. For service along Uniondale Avenue to Roosevelt Field, please use the n43. For service between Uniondale Avenue and Bellmore, please use the n51 (weekdays) or the n43 to the n19. n48/n49: Midday service on this combined route will be available every 60 minutes instead of every 30. For additional Front Street service between Merrick Ave and Hempstead, please use the n46. For additional service along Newbridge Road, please use the n50. n48 Saturday service will be discontinued, please use the N49 instead. The n49 Saturday service will, however, run every 40 minutes instead of every 60 minutes. The n49 will have some minor schedule changes on Sundays, please consult your schedule. n51: Saturday service will be discontinued n54/n55: The n55 will be extended to Amityville LIRR, Monday through Saturday. Please consult your schedule. Midday service on this combined route will be available every 60 minutes instead of every 30. Saturday service will operate 40 minutes. n62: This service will operate peak hours only. n70/n71/n72: Combined midday service on these routes will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 15. n72: Midday service to Babylon will now run every 60 minutes instead of every 30. n73/n74: Peak service on the combined route will operate every 40 minutes instead of every 30 minutes. n73 midday service will operate every 60 minutes. n74 midday service will be discontinued, but will be available on the N73. n78/n79: Service will not operate between Hicksville LIRR and Mineola Intermodal Center at all times. For service between Hicksville LIRR and Roosevelt Field/Mineola via Old Country Road, please use the n24, which will be extended to Hicksville LIRR via Old Country Road. n78 midday service will be discontinued, but service will be available on the n79. Saturday-Sunday departure times will change, so please consult your schedule. ---Click here to view video of proposed n24/78/79 changes: English, Español ---Click here to view map of proposed n24/78/79 changes ---Download map of proposed n24/78/79 changes Summary While many riders may not notice a change, others who use midday and weekend service on some routes will be impacted. Still other riders, especially commuters to Jamaica and Flushing, will enjoy new express service. We believe that passengers will appreciate the new express and other routes added to improve mobility with passengers on busy routes. We are not proposing to eliminate any whole routes. Fares are not increasing and Able-Ride service is not being changed. Wherever there are changes, the information above describes alternatives and options for passengers. Our service designers focused on the routes that are least used by customers and are thus the most expensive to operate. Running virtually empty buses is very expensive and requires large subsidies from the County. We are committed to ending that practice because it is too costly for the County in its current financial situation. We also combined some routes in certain times of the day, again to minimize the number of buses operating with very few people on them. In summary, these proposed adjustments represent our best judgment for achieving the savings and balanced budget that are required of us. Please know that there have been numerous improvements since NICE bus began operating on January 1, including more reliable and more on time service and cleaner buses and facilities. And improved customer service. While the system isn’t perfect, we will continue to add improvements with each passing month. Please note that new timetables will be distributed on buses, in transit centers and on the website in mid-March for whatever the final slate of service changes and improvements to be implemented on April 8th are determined to be. Source: http://nicebus.com/Maps_and_Schedules/Route_Information/index.html |
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NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route |
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Posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:54:01 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. We are pleased to propose a new n6 Express route to the 179th Street subway stop, which will run every ten minutes during rush hours. It will have only four stops to speed travel time. We believe it will improve upon the current n6 limited, which it will replace. We propose to start this express service April 8th. Details follow below.As part of the service adjustments and additions, we are proposing this service improvement. This proposal came from an extensive audit of the system that took place over several months in late 2011 and early 2012. We analyzed all the stops on each route, recorded passenger counts by stop throughout the day and night, and studied mobility patterns across the County. Most importantly, we talked to our riders. We got out on the buses and met the people who rely on us every day. We learned that many of you wanted a faster way to connect to the New York subway for your morning and evening commute. With these riders in mind, we designed two new express routes: the n6 Express and the n22 Express. Both routes are proposed to begin running on April 8th, 2012. There will be no additional charges to ride the proposed express buses. The charge will be the same $2.25 that it costs to ride any bus. To reduce commuting time for many people, the n6 Express service will only stop at four stops between the Hempstead Transit Center and the 179th St/ Hillside Ave Subway Station in Jamaica, as follows: ---Westbound trips pick up at the Hempstead Transit Center, Terrace Ave and Westminster Road. After Westminster Road, the bus will run non-stop to 179th St/Hillside Avenue subway station in Jamaica. ---Eastbound trips pick up at the 179th St/ Hillside Avenue subway station and run non-stop to Westminster Road. After Westminster Road, it will drop off at Hilton Ave and the Hempstead Transit Center. The n6X will replace the n6 Limited. For customers at limited stops that are not one of the express stops, or for customers continuing to the 165th St Bus Terminal, please board the n6 Local. Further details: --- Some trips starting after 6pm will also pick up at the 165th St Bus Terminal and at the 169th St/ Hillside Avenue subway station. --- Customers traveling west from 179th St to 165th St. should use the local. With the introduction of this route, there’s no faster way to connect to the 179th St. subway station from the Hempstead area. Take advantage of it! ---http://nicebus.com/Maps_and_Schedules/n6_Express/index.html |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Feb 22 10:56:23 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. This is very nicely outlined and easy to understand. I also appreciate the videos.The N22 service pattern can kind of be overwhelming, though. An n22, n22A, then n22L, and now an n22X? Isn't there some way they could simplify this? |
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NICE : Proposed new N22 Express Route |
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Posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:57:47 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. As part of the service adjustments and additions, we are proposing to add a new n22 Express Route. This proposal came from an extensive audit of the system that took place over several months in late 2011 and early 2012. We analyzed all the stops on each route, recorded passenger counts by stop throughout the day and night, and studied mobility patterns across the County. Most importantly, we talked to our riders. We got out on the buses and met the people who rely on us every day.We learned that many of you wanted a faster way to connect to the New York subway for your morning and evening commute. With these riders in mind, we designed two new express routes: the n22 Express and the n6 Express. Both routes are proposed to begin running on April 8th, 2012. There will be no additional charges to ride the proposed express buses. The charge will be the same $2.25 that it costs to ride any bus. The n22 Express will connect Hicksville, Roosevelt Field, and the 179th St. subway stop in Jamaica, Queens. We designed this new proposed route to get our riders to the 179th St. subway station easier and faster, while still servicing all of the most popular stops for commuters to hop on. It is a great complement to the existing 22 routes. How It Works: ---The route will make all local stops between Hicksville and Roosevelt Field. From Roosevelt Field, the route will run express to the 179th St./Hillside Avenue subway station in Jamaica. ---After the 179th St. stop, the route will continue to make all local stops to the 165th St. Bus Terminal. ---We will still run the n22L, the n22 and the n22A. ---Please note that we are proposing to make improvements on the 22L as of April 8th as well. It will continue to make all local stops except between Hillside Avenue/Willis Ave and Westbury Ave/Cherry Lane where it will only stop at Glen Cove Road/Westbury Ave. It will no longer operate to Old Country Road or Mineola Blvd. For stops along those streets, please use the n22. ---The proposed n22 Express comes every 30 minutes, as does the n22L, n22a and n22. The combined impact of all these routes means that one of the 22 buses will come about every ten minutes. ---http://nicebus.com/Maps_and_Schedules/n22_Express/index.html |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by BusMgr on Wed Feb 22 11:07:15 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. 1. I thought there might have been an express service to and from Flushing, but that does not appear to be part of the plan.2. Many other transit systems also advertise that when seeking to reduce service they look at actions that affect the least number of persons. That's not always the best plan. Sometimes, as a matter of providing connectivity to remote areas, it is better to keep a route with limited patronage (where reductions would eliminate all access) and cut back on the number of trips on well-used bus routes (where reductions would continue access, albeit less conveniently so). |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Wed Feb 22 12:30:41 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. I still think the N6X should continue to 165 St. A large bulk of customers get on there. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Feb 22 12:49:00 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Wed Feb 22 12:30:41 2012. The n6x probably should go all the way to 165th Street in a perfect world (especially with all of the connecting routes there), but remember that this is also a cost saving maneuver. The significant extra distance, street traffic, and the time it would take to get in and out of the terminal would probably significantly increase costs. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 22 14:17:42 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Feb 22 12:49:00 2012. The express routes are cost saving measures, as the 6X takes less time than the 6L and the 22X is basically a converted deadhead. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Feb 22 15:36:57 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 22 14:17:42 2012. You also have to consider that reverse-peak LIRR service is pretty crappy, so maybe they saw the opportunity to tap into the market that the LIRR can't serve. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 17:37:34 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:54:01 2012. Is the N6X bi-directional each rush period, or just AM-west & PM-east ? |
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Re: NICE : Proposed new N22 Express Route |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 17:39:16 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed new N22 Express Route, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:57:47 2012. They will be eating some of the LIRRs lunch at Hicksville and Hempstead.I don't think the MTA anticipated this. With the cat out of the bag, they might add to this. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 17:40:47 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Feb 22 15:36:57 2012. 3 main line eastbound trains still stop at Floral Park in the AM. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Feb 22 17:55:49 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 17:37:34 2012. Bi-directional. It replaces the Limited. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 19:12:30 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Feb 22 17:55:49 2012. This is a winner. Besides high LIRR fares, reverse peak Hempstead branch service has 90 minute gaps. The West Hempstead branch is even worse. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed new N22 Express Route |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Feb 22 19:26:14 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed new N22 Express Route, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 17:39:16 2012. They will be eating some of the LIRRs lunch at Hicksville and Hempstead.I don't think the MTA anticipated this. With the cat out of the bag, they might add to this. You mean the LIRR will add service to compete with NICE ? Bill Newkirk |
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Re: NICE : Proposed new N22 Express Route |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 19:59:54 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed new N22 Express Route, posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Feb 22 19:26:14 2012. No, just the opposite. NICE will keep adding express buses. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Feb 22 20:11:09 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 17:40:47 2012. I know, but in general reverse-peak service is sparse. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Feb 22 22:45:37 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Feb 22 10:56:23 2012. They did. N22a and N22l don't exist anymore |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by Train2104 on Wed Feb 22 22:50:06 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Feb 22 22:45:37 2012. They will continue to exist...the video mentions both (n22L reroute, n22A stays the same) |
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NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web) |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Feb 24 19:03:14 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. - n4 - All trips will operate between Jamaica and Freeport- Improving the n22L (Limited) with faster routing to 179th St (F) subway station from Hicksville & Waterbury - Coordinate n14 schedules with LIRR trains to/from Penn Station. - New non-stop service between Nassau Community College and Hempstead on n16. - Restoration of trips to Jones Beach Theater on n88. - Improved schedules on n6, n20, n22, n25, n31, n32, n40, n41, n43, n72 to ensure connections and transfers. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Feb 25 00:51:57 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. ugly html table . . .
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Re: NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web) |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Sat Feb 25 09:19:33 2012, in response to NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web), posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Feb 24 19:03:14 2012. Hadn't realized they extended the n22L to Waterbury! Wow! That's going to be some extension.... Hope the Connecticut residents appreciate this new service. Maybe competition for Metro-North. |
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Re: NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web) |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Feb 25 10:58:30 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web), posted by Joe Saitta on Sat Feb 25 09:19:33 2012. My bad, Westbury. |
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Re: NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web) |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Feb 25 10:59:11 2012, in response to NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web), posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Feb 24 19:03:14 2012. - Improving the n22L (Limited) with faster routing to 179th St (F) subway station from Hicksville & Westbury |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Feb 25 11:03:39 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. New timetables set to distribute by March 19th. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 25 13:12:24 2012, in response to NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by gold_12th on Wed Feb 22 10:03:17 2012. Not bad, but I would make further wholesale tweaks.To me, this looks like a slow trimming of the N78/79 service...what I want to know is: Why not consider combining the N79 with the N49 to Walt Whitman Mall? The only destination that would suffer would be the Jericho Quad. The N48 would still run rush hours only...and as for the N78, that could be interlined with select N24 trips instead of using a dedicated bus. The N48 would also be the sole bus serving Jericho Quad. One thing that I think could also save money---interlining at Roosevelt Field, or driver with bus reliefs at Roosevelt Field (where trips would require changing of buses with a bus pulling in from Roosevelt Field and a different bus taking over the same schedule). This could also be done for the N20 at Mineola Avenue...change of buses. Another change that should be considered down the line is combining the N25 and N58 so that it's easier to run the entire line out of Rockville Depot when the N25 is running. The later-evening service could have a bus doing the N57 for its first part and the N58 for its latter part. The aim of this is to save on deadhead mileage---it's much less to deadhead from Lynbrook to Rockville Centre than it is to deadhead from Great Neck to Garden City. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 25 13:16:43 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 22 19:12:30 2012. I think that this could possibly be the death blow to off-peak West Hempstead service. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 14:03:18 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 25 13:12:24 2012. Must all the buses return to Mitchell Field every nite ? Can't they rent a secure lot somewhere further north, and have them cycle back to M.F. every 2 nites ? |
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Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 14:04:15 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed new N6 Express Route, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 25 13:16:43 2012. Not at all, because 2/3rd of the West Hempstead branch ridership is Westwood and Malverne. |
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Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 25 14:08:14 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Proposed April 2012 Service Adjustments & Additions, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 14:03:18 2012. Yes, but during the middays, they can run to areas close to Mitchel Field and then deadhead. For routes such as the N4 and N15, changes would be done in Rockville Centre.BTW, another change that I would do, while reducing the N16 to hourly service, would be to extend the N17 to Roosevelt Field via the N16 route. |
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Re: NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web) |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Sat Feb 25 18:46:53 2012, in response to Re: NICE : Service Improvments (not yet posted on the web), posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Feb 25 10:58:30 2012. I know, just teasing. |
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