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B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jan 26 12:44:43 2012

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The MTA will add more rush-hour buses to the flaky B61 route — and Red Hook straphangers say don’t stop there.

On the heels of a searing report indicating that the packed bus comes erratically when it comes at all, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority agreed on Monday to add one extra bus per hour during the evening rush beginning in April.

The extra wheels will decrease waiting times from 10 minutes to 9 minutes between 3:30 pm and 7 pm to alleviate crowding, a spokesman for the agency said.

Riders in transportation-starved Red Hook say it’s a half-solution that still leaves morning commuters and school-bound kids out in the cold, literally and figuratively.

“It’s a good down payment but there’s plenty of work to do,” said Brad Kerr, who rides the B61 home from work. “More buses in the morning would be an awesome second step.”

The additional service comes after an exhaustive report put together by Councilman Brad Lander (D–Park Slope) found that fewer than half of the buses on the route — which runs from Red Hook to Downtown via Park Slope — arrived on time during “peak hours” and the rest showed up at least three minutes early or late.

Only 43 percent came on time during rush hour, which is twice as bad as the B44, a line that Straphangers Campaign named the least reliable “key route” in the borough last year.

That was particularly infuriating to Red Hook residents who have few other public transportation options, especially after the MTA cut the B71 bus and closed the Smith-Ninth Street train station for lengthy repairs

Red Hook riders now want the city to add more buses between 7 am and 9 am and extend the nearby B57 line, which starts in Vinegar Hill and terminates in Carroll Gardens.

Lander also wants the agency to provide a satellite-guided tracking system so straphangers know when their ride will actually arrive, much like the system that B63 users currently enjoy.

That said, he’s pleased with the new evening buses.

“I am happy to see that the MTA is listening,” Lander said.

--- http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/35/4/dtg_b61follow_2012_02_04_bk.html

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by MCI GUY on Thu Jan 26 15:47:58 2012, in response to B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jan 26 12:44:43 2012.

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steeetwalkers are now eiding the bus. do they hook up with their clients there.

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jan 26 19:18:58 2012, in response to B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jan 26 12:44:43 2012.

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The real problem with the B61 is that it is such a roundabout route. The MTA really should consider extending the B57 to IKEA to relieve that route.

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jan 26 19:56:51 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jan 26 19:18:58 2012.

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How much more extensions does the B57 need?

Maybe the MTA should bring the B75 back and have it operate between IKEA and Park Slope

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by caine515 on Thu Jan 26 20:28:27 2012, in response to B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jan 26 12:44:43 2012.

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what i would do is bring back the B71 but send it to IKEA instead. Run it via Union Street to Flatbush Avenue to Prospect Park Station.

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by B49 Limited on Thu Jan 26 20:33:18 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jan 26 19:56:51 2012.

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Bring back the B 75 and terminate the B 61 to Park Slope - 5 av

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Thu Jan 26 20:33:35 2012, in response to B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jan 26 12:44:43 2012.

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[Lander also wants the agency to provide a satellite-guided tracking system so straphangers know when their ride will actually arrive, much like the system that B63 users currently enjoy.]

In other words, he wants BusTime. When it goes live in Brooklyn, he'll get it.

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jan 26 20:51:15 2012, in response to B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jan 26 12:44:43 2012.

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Heh heh heh ... he said hookers ... heh heh heh.



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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jan 26 21:38:21 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by B49 Limited on Thu Jan 26 20:33:18 2012.

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Yeah that works. Have the B61 terminate at 10th Street/5th Avenue (the old B77 terminal) and send the B57 back to Downtown Brooklyn. The B75 returns to its original routing between Downtown Brooklyn and Park Slope - 20th Street along Court Street (southbound) or Smith Street (northbound).

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jan 26 22:40:20 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by MCI GUY on Thu Jan 26 15:47:58 2012.

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tee-hee

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by JAzumah on Fri Jan 27 01:10:28 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jan 26 20:51:15 2012.

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LOL!

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by B49 Limited on Fri Jan 27 02:08:48 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jan 26 21:38:21 2012.

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When they were considering the doomsday cuts (and even after the B 61 was split into two), I thaught MTA was going to combine the B 61.77 route to save money. The combination with the B 75 has become a nightmare and the only reason for the B 57 was public outcry and Culver project. The B 75 cut was a bad mistake. Cutting the headways (similar to what it was in its final months and ending service earlier (late nights have the B 61 serve its current routing but other times terminate at 4 Av - 9 St staton), would have been a great solution and also could have been extended to Kensington to resolve the 15 St/ Ft. Hamilton station issues.

However if you are going to keep the B 75, then the sacrifice would be the elimination of the B 67. The B 69 would cover 7 Av and headways would be slightly adjusted, in addition service after 9pm - 1am and weekends would terminate at Grand Army Plaza, and no late night service.
The B 69/ B 75 replaces the B 67 along McDonald Av.

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 27 13:31:24 2012, in response to B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jan 26 12:44:43 2012.

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"The additional service comes after an exhaustive report put together by Councilman Brad Lander (D–Park Slope) found that fewer than half of the buses on the route — WHICH RUNS FROM RED HOOK TO DOWNTOWN VIA PARK SLOPE— arrived on time during “peak hours” and the rest showed up at least three minutes early or late."

I'd be an angry Red Hooker too, if the only bus serving the neighborhood ran downtown via Park Slope. The problem is, they've got it totally backwards. The B61 runs from Park Slope to Downtown via Red Hook!



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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jan 27 19:34:02 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 27 13:31:24 2012.

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Lol! Nice catch!

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Jan 27 19:38:17 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by B49 Limited on Fri Jan 27 02:08:48 2012.

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Well you could get rid of B75 late night service. The B61 would just be extended to Park Slope at night to cover the route that it runs right now. Riders wouldn't have to deal with traveling from Park Slope to Downtown Brooklyn via Red Hook during the day, they'd just travel on Smith Street.

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by Nyctransitman on Sun Jan 29 19:52:55 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by LRG5784 on Thu Jan 26 21:38:21 2012.

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I agree with sending the B57 back to Downtown, Brooklyn no longer serving Court Street/Smith Street because not many people travel between Caroll Gardens and Maspeth ,Queens. The B75 roting you mention can be attained by than extending the B62 route from Downtown, Brooklyn to Park Slope via Court Street/Smith Street and other former B75 routing. I also like to than see the B57 east from 61st Street/Flushing Avenue/Grand Avenue to 63rd Drive - Rego Park.

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jan 30 00:22:44 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by B49 Limited on Fri Jan 27 02:08:48 2012.

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What then provides service into the heart of Downtown Brooklyn on the 7 Avenue corridor, however?

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jan 30 13:11:46 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jan 30 00:22:44 2012.

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B69

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jan 30 22:25:28 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jan 30 13:11:46 2012.

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The B69 goes nowhere near that area, and it runs up Vanderbilt.

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Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers

Posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jan 30 23:01:15 2012, in response to Re: B61 buses will come more often — but not often enough for Red Hookers, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jan 30 22:25:28 2012.

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Sorry.. It was not meant to be posted. But B 69 does serve 7 Av, however, if a B 67 elimination was made I would extend the B 69 to terminate at the current B 62 terminal.

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